[Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?

[Martin at Cleaver.org]

Nick,
   Has Cpanel documented the changes they have made to Mailman? If not, can
Cpanel supply the Mailman dev team with the scripts they use to mould it to
fit?
Cheers,
   Martin.
--
Martin at Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759 
Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant to Rotman
 
 

=-----Original Message-----
=From: Bob Puff at NLE [mailto:bob at nleaudio.com]
=Sent: Friday, 14 November 2003 8:20 PM
=To: Martin at Cleaver.org; 'Barry Warsaw'
=Cc: 'J. Nick Koston'; mailman-developers at python.org; serafin at eryxma.com
=Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?
=
=
=The problem with cpanel is that it messes with the program configs in order
=to
=mould things into its proprietary setup.  Once that way, its hard to mess
=with
=things, because they are not as they would normally be set up in a standard
=install.  So in this example, the Mailman install is NOT the same as you
=would
=find on a webhost without cpanel.
=
=Its ok for people who just want to set up a server and let their users
=modify
=basic stuff, but its not for those who want to install custom software, or
=tweak stuff.  I tried it on a box a while ago, and promptly reformatted
=after
=trying to figure out where they moved stuff, etc...
=
=Bob
=
=
=---------- Original Message -----------
=From: <Martin at Cleaver.org>
=To: "'Barry Warsaw'" <barry at python.org>
=Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:55:32 -0500
=Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?
=
=> Hi Barry
=>
=> Ok, many thanks. Please see below for the full message. You'll note
=> that I'd lost all the text from the message.
=>
=> I'll send you the password for the list in a separate message. Feel
=> free to look or change the settings, and to create a new list for
=> testing. All my lists have this problem so I am sure it is nothing
=> that I have done wrong.
=>
=> I'm using Outlook XP 2002 SP-2, but my users (including Sean who
=> sent that last message) may be using something different.
=>
=> Thanks and regards,
=>    Martin.
=>
=>
=> On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 13:23, Martin at Cleaver.org wrote:
=>
=> > Nick / Barry
=>
=> > Can you please at least acknowledge whether this is a known problem?
=>
=> > Many Thanks,
=>
=> > Martin.
=>
=> > =My main complaint is that the archives don't work with HTML postings
=>
=> > =rendering the mailing list practically useless. =
=>
=> > =Here's a typical mailing:  <http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social>
=> http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social-announce-
=> ft2004_mbssrc.com/2003-No vember/date.html
=>
=> > =
=>
=> > =Here's my postings to the cpanel site:
=>
=> > = *  <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928>
=> http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928
=>
=> > =
=>
=> > =And I am not alone:
=>
=> > = *  <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13383>
=> http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13383
=>
=> I'm sorry I can't get into the cpanel forums.
=>
=> But I did look at that Pipermail message (you need to follow the
=> link to the one page that's in that date index). If I follow the
=> link to the GIF image, it shows up just fine.
=>
=> Please note that the rendering of messages such as
=> multipart/alternative are depending on list settings that I can't
=> see, such as which content types to pass or scrub. I also haven't
=> seen the original message so I don't know how what was posted
=> matches against the filter_mime_types and pass_mime_types settings
=> in the Content Filter section. There are also some site-wide
=> settings which describe how to archive things like HTML messages,
=>  although I don't think that's what's happening here (it looks more
=> like some unintended content-types are getting scrubbed out).
=>
=> I can't see any bugs, but your list may not be configured the way
=> you want it for the types of messages being posted to it.
=>
=> -Barry
=>
=> --
=>
=> Martin at Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759
=> Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant to Rotman
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=> -----Original Message-----
=> From: Sean Xi Yu WEN [mailto:x.wen at student.mbs.edu]
=> Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:22 AM
=> To: Social-announce-ft2004 at mbssrc.com
=> Cc: Martin at Cleaver.org; Quan Zhang
=> Subject: [Social-announce-ft2004] East Meets West Lunch
=>
=>
=>
=> Welcome to the launch of the East Meets West Lunch Club!! Our launch
=> involves a delightful eastern lunch in the city this coming Monday,
=>  10 November. Our aim is to meet monthly for lunch alternating
=> between eastern and western themed restaurants.
=>
=> Please join us to explore the city and bridge the cultural gap.
=>
=>
=>
=> Monday's menu is set at $13 per person;
=>
=> including Chicken with Special Sauce, Sweet and Sour Pork and Beef with
=> Vegetables, all served with vegetable fried rice.
=>
=>
=>
=> Save December 5 for our next meeting; location to be announced.
=>
=>
=>
=> Time: 1:30 p.m.
=>
=> Date: 10 November 2003
=>
=> Place: Num Fong Chinese Restaurant
=>
=> 271 Swanston Street, CBD
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=> - Quan (Calvin) Zhang, Xi Yu (Sean) Wen,
=>
=> Mindy Frink and Lisa Stevenson (founding members)
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=> RSVP to  x.xx <mailto:m.frink at student.mbs.edu> @student.mbs.edu if
=> you plan to join.
=>
=> See you there!
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=>
=> Sean Xi Yu WEN
=>
=> MBA - Class of 2004
=>
=> Melbourne Business School
=------- End of Original Message -------