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>    1. Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #910 - 13 msgs (On Vacation) (James Hanson)
>    2. Spam & junk (Yann Forget)
>    3. Removing old archives for Mailman (Shane Y. Gibson)
>    4. Re: Spam & junk (Matt Singerman)
>    5. Re: Spam & junk (Yann Forget)
>    6. problem (Team ZR-1)
>    7. Re: problem (Dan Mick)
>    8. Re: localization (David Herren)
>    9. Re: Error trying to login to admin (Joel Shellman)
>   10. help!! (nicola)
>   11. Re: help!! (Matt Singerman)
>   12. Archives (Cordell H. Thomas)
>   13. posted messages disappear (David Jackson)
>   14. [SUMMARY] majordomo-to-mailman crib sheet? (Will Partain)
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> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #910 - 13 msgs (On Vacation)
> Data: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:06:20 -0600
> Da: "James Hanson" <james at nexengroup.com>
> A: <mailman-users at python.org>
>
> I will be out of the office until Monday, December 11th, 2000.
>
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> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] Spam & junk
> Data: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 02:12:45 +0100
> Da: Yann Forget <yann.forget at ynternet.org>
> A: Mailman-Users <mailman-users at python.org>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Could it be possible to filter all spams and junk
> going to this list ?
>
> Because, for a list about a MLM, it's A SHAME !
>
> Yann
>
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> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] Removing old archives for Mailman
> Data: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:42:56 -0500
> Da: "Shane Y. Gibson" <sgibson at digitalimpact.com>
> Società: Digital Impact
> A: mailman-users at python.org
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Python 2.0 and am having problems with archives.  Our
> users send M$ files en-force, and fill an 18 Gig disk in about
> 6 months.  I need to be able to setup some sort of cron job
> to delete archive information older than 3 months.  Is this
> possible?
>
> It seems one would have to parse the <listname>.mbox/<listname>.mbox
> file, and groom out the stuff they want gone.  This would seem to
> be a rather icky way of doing this.  Any thoughts/ideas/magic
> scripts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> v/r
> Shane
>
> P.S. If possible, please CC me directly on the replies.
>
> --
> Shane Y. Gibson                     sgibson at digitalimpact.com
>
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>
> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam & junk
> Data: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:42:26 -0500 (EST)
> Da: Matt Singerman <m at whiteywillpay.net>
> A: Yann Forget <yann.forget at ynternet.org>
> CC: Mailman-Users <mailman-users at python.org>
>
> What I was wondering is, is the list set to only allow members to post?
>
> Matt Singerman               | "Don't feel sad, I'm in heaven now,
> m at whiteywillpay.net          |  singing with the pretty angels"
> http://whiteywillpay.net/    |   -- JonBenet Ramsey
>
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Yann Forget wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Could it be possible to filter all spams and junk
> > going to this list ?
> >
> > Because, for a list about a MLM, it's A SHAME !
> >
> > Yann
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Mailman-Users maillist  -  Mailman-Users at python.org
> > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> >
>
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> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam & junk
> Data: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 02:37:38 +0100
> Da: Yann Forget <yann.forget at ynternet.org>
> A: Mailman-Users <mailman-users at python.org>
> Documentazione: <Pine.BSF.4.30.0012041842120.50563-100000 at qenni.pair.com>
>
> Matt Singerman a écrit :
> >
> > What I was wondering is, is the list set to only allow members to post?
>
> Well, at the very least, it should be !
>
> Yann
>
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>
> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] problem
> Data: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:16:53 -0800
> Da: Team ZR-1 <teamzr1 at teamzr1.com>
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> A: mailman-users at python.org
>
> i deleted a user who's e-mail name ( mailto:larsach at aol.com) is no
> longer valid.
>
> As the list owner, I went to the users name, unclicked subscr and saved
> that.
>
> Now I still am getting the following but now that user does not show up
> in the user list at all thus
> I cannot stop the following :  ( hoe do I correct this ???? )
>
> Thanks,  John Rovner
>              http://teamzr1.com
> ------
>
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> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] problem
> Data: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:24:14 -0800 (PST)
> Da: Dan Mick <Dan.Mick at West.Sun.COM>
> A: teamzr1 at teamzr1.com
> CC: mailman-users at python.org
>
> You've probably still got undelivered mail in your MTA queue.
> It will take several days for that mail to time out and be
> deleted/returned.
>
> > i deleted a user who's e-mail name ( mailto:larsach at aol.com) is no
> > longer valid.
> >
> > As the list owner, I went to the users name, unclicked subscr and saved
> > that.
> >
> > Now I still am getting the following but now that user does not show up
> > in the user list at all thus
> > I cannot stop the following :  ( hoe do I correct this ???? )
>
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> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] localization
> Data: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:29:33 -0500
> Da: David Herren <david at idiomatrix.com>
> A: "Hamm, Gottfried" <ghamm at ghks.de>
> CC: <mailman-users at python.org>,"Klöppel,Andreas" <akloeppel at schafsnase.de>
>
>   * are there any plans to make a localization of mailman? I'm ISP in
>   * Germany and my customers would like to have the templates and
> all pages
>   * in German. Actually I'm translating the templates. Where could I send
>   * the translated templates to (probably) include them in a future
> release?
>
> I'd love to see this as option as well. I run a server for an
> international organization. The main pages are all translated into
> German, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Catalan, Dutch, Japanese,
> Chinese, Russian & Hungarian. It would be great to be able to somehow
> configure Mailman to switch....
>
> --
> david herren
> david at idiomatrix.com
> shoreham, vt
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error trying to login to admin
> Data: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 23:53:28 -0800
> Da: "Joel Shellman" <joel at knocean.com>
> A: <mailman-users at python.org>
> Documentazione: <021501c05de6$12f289c0$13551518 at cx403972a> <3A2BEF01.A1852E59 at west.sun.com>
>
> Thank you very much for the quick help. Apparently the patch didn't get
> applied completely or something. The maketext calls were missing
> self._full_path. Not only in Digester.py, but also in MailList.py (which I
> discovered after fixing Digester.py).
>
> Seems to be working now--thanks!
>
> -joel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Mick" <Dan.Mick at west.sun.com>
> To: "Joel Shellman" <joel at knocean.com>; <mailman-users at python.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error trying to login to admin
>
> > Another indentation problem or other syntax error
> > from trying to apply the patch by hand?
> >
> > This is what GetConfigInfo should look like (in Digester.py):
> >
> >     def GetConfigInfo(self):
> >         WIDTH = mm_cfg.TEXTFIELDWIDTH
> >
> >         return [
> >             "Batched-delivery digest characteristics.",
> >
> >             ('digestable', mm_cfg.Toggle, ('No', 'Yes'), 1,
> >              'Can list members choose to receive list traffic '
> >              'bunched in digests?'),
> >
> >             ('digest_is_default', mm_cfg.Radio,
> >              ('Regular', 'Digest'), 0,
> >              'Which delivery mode is the default for new users?'),
> >
> >             ('mime_is_default_digest', mm_cfg.Radio,
> >              ('Plain', 'Mime'), 0,
> >              'When receiving digests, which format is default?'),
> >
> >             ('digest_size_threshhold', mm_cfg.Number, 3, 0,
> >              'How big in Kb should a digest be before it gets sent out?'),
> >             # Should offer a 'set to 0' for no size threshhold.
> >
> >             ('digest_send_periodic', mm_cfg.Radio, ('No', 'Yes'), 1,
> >              'Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold
> '
> >              "isn't reached?"),
> >
> >             ('digest_header', mm_cfg.Text, (4, WIDTH), 0,
> >              'Header added to every digest',
> >              "Text attached (as an initial message, before the table"
> >              " of contents) to the top of digests. "
> >              + Utils.maketext(self._full_path, 'headfoot.html', raw=1)),
> >
> >             ('digest_footer', mm_cfg.Text, (4, WIDTH), 0,
> >              'Footer added to every digest',
> >              "Text attached (as a final message) to the bottom of digests.
> "
> >              + Utils.maketext(self._full_path, 'headfoot.html', raw=1)),
> >             ]
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel Shellman wrote:
> > >
> > > I installed the per-list custom templates patch and now when I try to
> log
> > > into adminstration page, I get the following error in the error log:
> > >
> > > Dec 04 05:35:12 2000 admin(17961):
> > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> > > admin(17961): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0 -----]
> > > admin(17961): [----- Traceback ------]
> > > admin(17961): Traceback (innermost last):
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in
> run_main
> > > admin(17961):     main()
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 135, in
> main
> > > admin(17961):     FormatConfiguration(doc, mlist, category,
> category_suffix,
> > > cgidata)
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 284, in
> > > FormatConfiguratio
> > > n
> > > admin(17961):     form.AddItem(FormatOptionsSection(category, mlist,
> > > cgi_data))
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 301, in
> > > FormatOptionsSecti
> > > on
> > > admin(17961):     options = GetConfigOptions(mlist, category)
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 928, in
> > > GetConfigOptions
> > > admin(17961):     return mlist.GetConfigInfo()[category]
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 350, in
> > > GetConfigInfo
> > > admin(17961):     config_info['digest'] = Digester.GetConfigInfo(self)
> > > admin(17961):   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Digester.py", line 44, in
> > > GetConfigInfo
> > > admin(17961):     return [
> > > admin(17961): TypeError: not enough arguments; expected 2, got 1
> > > admin(17961): [----- Python Information -----]
> > > admin(17961): sys.version    = 1.5.2 (#1, Feb  1 2000, 16:32:16)  [GCC
> > > egcs-2.91.66 199903
> > > 14/Linux (egcs-
> > > admin(17961): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python
> > >
> > > Anyone know how to fix this?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > -joel
>
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>
> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] help!!
> Data: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:37:59 +0200
> Da: nicola <nicola at mens.it>
> A: mailman-users at python.org
>
> I've installed Mailman on my Linux PC.
> I've compiled the source with the following options:
>    ./configure --with-cgi-gid=mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman
> When i try to create a newlist (mailman/bin/newlist) as mailman user,
> the directory /mailman/admin is not created. Then I don't see the list
> in my web pages.Why???
>
> Thanks
>
> Nicola
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oggetto: Re: [Mailman-Users] help!!
> Data: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:31:15 -0500 (EST)
> Da: Matt Singerman <m at whiteywillpay.net>
> A: nicola <nicola at mens.it>
> CC: <mailman-users at python.org>
>
> Try running newlist as root.  User mailman probably doesn't have the
> correct permissions.  In theory, you could change the groups and
> permissions to allow this...  But why bother?
>
> Matt Singerman               | "Don't feel sad, I'm in heaven now,
> m at whiteywillpay.net          |  singing with the pretty angels"
> http://whiteywillpay.net/    |   -- JonBenet Ramsey
>
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, nicola wrote:
>
> > I've installed Mailman on my Linux PC.
> > I've compiled the source with the following options:
> >    ./configure --with-cgi-gid=mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman
> > When i try to create a newlist (mailman/bin/newlist) as mailman user,
> > the directory /mailman/admin is not created. Then I don't see the list
> > in my web pages.Why???
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Nicola
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Mailman-Users maillist  -  Mailman-Users at python.org
> > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> >
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] Archives
> Data: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:05:12 -0500 (EST)
> Da: "Cordell H. Thomas" <cht at ccil.org>
> A: mailman-users at python.org
>
> I am managing a set of lists and have noticed that the public archive
> function does not work as expected.  Are there any suggestions?
>
> Del Thomas
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] posted messages disappear
> Data: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:51:56 -0400 (Atlantic Standard Time)
> Da: David Jackson <djackson at Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca>
> A: mailman-users at python.org
>
> Hi, I'm having trouble getting mailman 2.0 to work properly with postfix
> on a solaris machine.  The web interface works, and it mails out a welcome
> message when I add users to the list but when I post to the list the
> messages just disappear.  I added the aliases as instructed and I can see
> in the mail logs that the message is being delivered to the "wrapper post
> test" command with no error messages.  I don't get any error messages in
> $prefix/mailman/logs either.  I ran configure with the following options:
>
> ./configure --with-username=mailman --prefix=/var/mailman
> --with-cgi-gid=http --with-mail-gid=mailman
>
> Also I put the aliases for the list in a separate file the way it says to
> do if you're using postfix in the troubleshooting section of the INSTALL
> file.
>
> I don't really understand what mail-gid is for.  Does it mean the gid it
> expects the wrapper program to be run with from postfix?  After I moved
> the aliases for the test list to a separate file and changed the
> owenership to mailman.mailman postfix seemed to run the command with gid
> mailman which should be ok...
>
> Could somebody please give me some suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?
> Thanks.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> David Jackson                    Systems Administrator
> Dept. of Oceanography            E-mail: David.Jackson at Dal.Ca
> Dalhousie University             Phone: (902) 494-6663
> Halifax, NS                      FAX: (902) 494-2885
> CANADA, B3H 4J1
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Oggetto: [Mailman-Users] [SUMMARY] majordomo-to-mailman crib sheet?
> Data: 05 Dec 2000 16:59:05 +0000
> Da: Will Partain <will.partain at motorola.com>
> A: mailman-users at python.org
> Documentazione: <200011281726.RAA21851 at mekb2.sps.mot.com>
>
> I asked:
>
> > Does anyone have a crib sheet about converting a majordomo
> > site to a mailman (2.0) site?  ...
>
> Thanks to Ben Lutgens and Joe Morris for their helpful
> replies.
>
> My notes on *exactly* what to do and a script that does most
> of the work are below.
>
> Will
>
> PS: If any of you are interested in the *systematic*
> exchange of this kind of sysadmin info, consider tuning in
> to the Arusha Project (http://ark.sourceforge.net).
>
> ==== notes ============================================
>
> Switching a list from Majordomo to Mailman
>
> To convert a Majordomo list to a Mailman list, say the wibble list:
>
>   1. Remove the wibble majordomo aliases from sendmail-land; and
>      incorporate...
>
>      % sudo newaliases
>
>   2. Create a new wibble mailman list, something like:
>
>      % sudo -u mailman bin/newlist --quiet --output=mm-aliases wibble sysadmin-mailing-list-keeper at mekb2.sps.mot.com <passwd>
>
>    Note: as you do this several times, new sendmail aliases will pile up
>    in mm-aliases.
>
> 3. Copy the old archives into their new home; the majordomo archives
>    should be cat'd together into one big lovely mbox. E.g., as root, run
>    the following script:
>
>    #!/bin/sh -x
>    set -e
>    outf=/user/mailman/archives/private/wibble.mbox/wibble.mbox
>    [ -f $outf ] || touch $outf
>    for i in /user/majordom/archives/wibble/wibble.archive.[1-9]??? \
>             /user/majordom/archives/wibble/wibble.archive.0??? ; do
>        cat $i  >> $outf
>        echo '' >> $outf
>    done
>    chown mailman:mailman $outf
>    chmod 664 $outf
>
> 4. Munge the mbox:
>
>    % sudo -u mailman bin/arch wibble
>
>    Add the old (majordomo) membership list to the new list; this
>    invocation seems to do it:
>
>    /user/mailman/bin/sync_members \
>            --welcome-msg=no --notifyadmin=no \
>            --file /user/majordom/lists/wibble wibble
>
>    Add a -n if you want to do a "dry run"...
>
> 5. Make any needed adjustments to the list's settings.
>
> 6. Add the mailman aliases (from mmaliases?) for the new list into the
>    sendmail world; then incorporate: sudo newaliases.
>
> ==== script ===========================================
>
> #! /bin/sh -x
>
> # this is **NOT** all of what must be done to move a list
> # from majordomo to mailman, but it is the heavy lifting.
>
> #set -e # paranoia makes a mess, actually...
>
> listname=$1
> listpasswd=$2
>
> if [ -z "$listname" ] ; then
>     echo no list name given 2>&1
>     exit 1
> fi
>
> if [ -z "$listpasswd" ] ; then
>     echo no list password given 2>&1
>     exit 1
> fi
>
> KEEPER='sysadmin-mailing-list-keeper at mekb2.sps.mot.com'
> MAILMAN=/user/mailman
> MAJORDOMO=/user/majordom
>
> cd $MAILMAN
>
> bin/newlist --quiet --output=mm-aliases $listname $KEEPER $listpasswd
>
> outf=$MAILMAN/archives/private/$listname.mbox/$listname.mbox
> /bin/rm -f $outf
> [ -f $outf ] || touch $outf
> for i in $MAJORDOMO/archives/$listname/$listname.archive.[1-9]??? \
>          $MAJORDOMO/archives/$listname/$listname.archive.0??? ; do
>     cat $i  >> $outf
>     echo '' >> $outf
> done
> chown mailman:mailman $outf
> chmod 664 $outf
>
> bin/arch $listname
>
> exec bin/sync_members \
>         --welcome-msg=no --notifyadmin=no \
>         --file $MAJORDOMO/lists/$listname $1
>
> # the end
>
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