[Mailman-Users] weird problems; a cry for help

[George Dinwiddie]

Wow!  Many thanks for your analysis.  Not being a Python
programmer, I hadn't even thought about the header being
interpreted, which is silly on my part.

Thanks,
   George

> Dan Mick said:
> 
> Argh.
> 
> The problem is that George's digest header had the string '% d'
> in it, and the 'string-mod' operation was trying to treat that
> as an integer format field.  (the text was "10% discount").
> 
> Erk.  I think this is a Python bug; I think it should not
> treat '% d' the same as '%d'; but I'm having a hard time 
> discovering anything formally specifying the format of a
> 'printf-like string interpolation function of the % operator'
> in the Python documentation; any help appreciated.
> 
> But in any event, if anyone sees anything similar, suspect '%'
> characters in your header/footer text.
> 
> George, a workaround seems to be to change that to "10%% discount",
> but that only works out right if you *know* the '%' operator is
> going to be applied.  In this case, you know it is, so it should
> be safe.
> 
> But make no mistake: Python really blind-sided you on this one, IMO.
> 
> > I feel like I'm talking to myself. :-)  I guess that since no one has
> > responded, this must be too wacked out to diagnose.  Should I delete
> > the list and re-create it?  If I do that, is there any way to salvage
> > either the member list or the archived messages?
> > 
> > Anxious for a reponse,
> >   George
> > 
> > > George Dinwiddie said:
> > > 
> > > I'm a mailman newbie and hardly know where to begin.  I've got a
> > > couple of lists running at www.alberg30.org in a virtual hosting
> > > environment where mailman is shared by all the domains hosted on
> > > the machine.  Everything was hunky-dory until...
> > > 
> > > Well, first the ISP had some sort of crash.  Then they moved
> > > from RedHat 6.0 to 7.0.  Somewhere along the line (maybe t
> > > the same time) they installed a newer version (or versions)
> > > of mailman.  I know that it was beta 6 but is now 2.0rc1.
> > > 
> > > First, I had problems with the "welcome" message being sent
> > > with the "Reply-to" header pointing to the list, instead of
> > > the admin address.  Then all mail stopped.  They got one
> > > list working again, but the other, the most important one,
> > > is really bollixed.
> > > 
> > > logs/error is filling up with:
> > > Oct 25 18:04:00 2000 (32336) Delivery exception: __int__
> > > Oct 25 18:04:00 2000 (32336) Traceback (innermost last):
> > >   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in 
> do_pipeline
> > >     func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
> > >   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 121, in process
> > >     inject_digest(mlist, digestfile, topicsfile)
> > >   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 170, in 
> inject_digest
> > >     msg = digest.asMIME()
> > >   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 242, in asMIME
> > >     return self.Present(mime=1)
> > >   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 279, in Present
> > >     lines.append(self.__mlist.digest_header % self.TemplateRefs())
> > > AttributeError: __int__
> > > 
> > > logs/digest is filling up with stuff like:
> > > Oct 25 18:09:00 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2035 msgs, 22 recips (4 
> mime, 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:09:00 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2036 msgs, 22 recips (4 
> mime, 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:09:01 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2037 msgs, 22 recips (4 
> mime, 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2038 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 
> 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2039 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 
> 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2040 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 
> 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2041 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 
> 18 text, 0 disabled)
> > > 
> > > logs/qrunner has stuff like:
> > > Oct 25 16:17:02 2000 (30248) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > > Oct 25 16:18:02 2000 (7653) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > > Oct 25 16:19:01 2000 (14921) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > > Oct 25 16:20:01 2000 (24286) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > > Oct 25 16:21:01 2000 (19783) Could not acquire qrunner lock
> > >   but I'm not sure it's related to the stuff in logs/digest.
> > > 
> > > lists/public-list/next-digest is filling up with many copies of a few 
> messages.  Likewise,
> > > lists/public-list/next-digest-topics is filling up with the same 4 topics in 
> rotation.
> > > 
> > > Any ideas on what the problem might be?  Better yet, any ideas on the fix?
> > > 
> > > Please copy me on the reply.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > >   George Dinwiddie
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> > >   George Dinwiddie                                  gdinwiddie at min.net
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> > 
> > 
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> >   George Dinwiddie                                  gdinwiddie at min.net
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