[Mailman-Users] Sendmail getting bum rap...

[Amanda]

My fundamental issue with sendmail is that it's not intuitive. The docs aren't
intuitive or even helpful. One arrives at optimum system performance not by
reading and making informed tweaks to the system, but by randomly twiddling and
praying for the best. In other words, it's basically voodoo, and that doesn't
jibe with being the kind of no-bull system adminstrator I tend to be. Ditto for
Cisco equipment - if I need a Ph.D. and five feet of shelf space for the manuals
required to make it run, I don't want it on my network...

=)
Amanda


Timothy Brier wrote:

> I know it came across as such, but I did not mean to bad mouth Sendmail.
> For all I know if I
> downloaded and compiled Sendmail I would get the same performance.   I know
> a local ISP that uses and
> highly recommends it.
>
> My point was that although RPMs are a convenient way to install software, my
> experience is
> that if you solely rely on the availability of an RPM, then you may be
> missing out on other alternatives.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
> To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:24 AM
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Sendmail getting bum rap...
>
> > On Thursday 25 October 2001 10:48, Timothy Brier wrote:
> > > I couldn't agree more.  I was using the RPMs from RedHat with Sendmail.
> > > It was taking about 30 minutes to deliver 500 messages.
> > >
> > > I downloaded and  installed Postfix (not the RPM) and watched the time
> > > drop to 1 minute and 45 seconds.
> > >
> > I run Sendmail at work (and have also run Postfix).  I run Postfix at home
> > and at a few contract clients - Mandrake defaults to postfix.  The postfix
> > works just fine, and I have no problems with it.  My sendmail works just
> > fine and I have no problems with it either.
> >
> > The performance I get with loads of 100k messages/day is very similar with
> > both Postfix and Sendmail.  If it is taking you over 5 minutes to deliver
> > 500 messages (< 50k each) from a sendmail server, then something is wrong
> > with:
> >   - the install/configuration of your Sendmail
> >   - the cpu/disk subsystem of your PC
> >   - your DNS must be caca.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I my corporate mail servers, I install Sendmail from source and optimize
> it
> > based on the articles on http://www.sendmail.org.  The whole process takes
> > about 4 hours, and the end result is a spiffy mailserver that handles a
> > pounding very well and keeps delivering.
> >
> > I have no bias against Postfix.  I like it just fine.  Sendmail also works
> > just fine.
> >
> > Now if you are processing huge amounts of email on a nice server with SCSI
> > disk subsystems, you will see a definite advantage while using Postfix.
> > This advantage is lost however on a moderate level server with an IDE disk
> > subsystem.
> >
> > Just speaking from my own experience.  If anyone has a real definitive
> > study showing otherwise, I would like to see it.
> >
> > Jon Carnes
> >
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