OFFTOPIC Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive URL in postings (2.1b3)
J C Lawrence
claw at kanga.nu
Wed Oct 30 04:51:03 CET 2002
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:33:08 -0600
John Buttery <john at io.com> wrote:
> * Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui at plaidworks.com> [2002-10-29 10:45:28
>> On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 10:38 AM, Jay Sekora wrote:
>> Because it's simply a lie. I got this mail with the headers:
>> sorry. don't agree.
> "Lie" is kinda an interesting way to put it, but I think we all know
> what he means. How can you say that readdressing a mail (which is
> what you're doing here) isn't a "lie" the way he's referring to it?
> It's in plain black and white.
Sure it is. You assuming a certain set of semantic connotations for the
To: and Cc: headers and then inferentially assume that everybody else
operates on the same understanding of those headers. The problem is
that its just not true. Your assumptions are neither universal or
>> >What that means to me is that Chuq Von Rospach knows me, knows my
>> email >address, deliberately decided to send this mail to me
>> um, interesting philosophy. I don't buy it. Not for a moment.
> Well, OK then, how would you differentiate this new behaviour from a
> hypothetical message I might have sent pre-upgrade that _did_ have
> your address in the To: and the list in the CC:?
One has a List-ID header, one doesn't.
One has an In-Reply-To that references my prior post, one doesn't.
> Hint: you can't.
Sure I can.
> (Of course, I acknowledge that sending a copy directly to a person who
> is already subscribed to the list is a bit silly/redundant, but I
> don't see that that dilutes the point at all. In five seconds I can
> think of a case where this would happen...I see a mail off the list, I
> don't know someone is subscribed, so I send them my followup but also
> CC the list because I think it pertains there also. With this new
> function, you've just erased anybody's ability to tell the difference
> between those two situations.)
Ignoring the aspects of etiquette in quoting a private email in a public
forum, this is also not a problem for the same reasons as above.
J C Lawrence
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