[Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

Jason Buscema jpbuse at lambesis.com
Wed Jul 16 01:53:10 CEST 2003 

This puts me back to my original post... the reason I want to have a
personalized footer message in my HTML emails is so that a user can click
the link to unsubscribe. Again, we don't use Mailman management for this
list. If the user is getting tired of HTML emails, they can click a link and
change to plain text, or they click another link and be removed from the
list completely. Pretty simple really... we're just giving the user an
option on how they want to clutter their inbox.

On 7/15/03 4:14 PM, "Customer & Technical Support" <support at pczero.net>
wrote:

> And you cant say that more and more people are NOT getting tired of having
> the mail they receive all cluttered up with "look pretty" garbage and less
> real content.
> 
> 
> 
> t 08:11 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> 
>> Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more people want HTML
>> e-mails.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Barrett" <r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk>
>> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
>> Cc: "Mailman" <mailman-users at python.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use XML, would
>>>> you
>>>> follow?
>>> 
>>> The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
>>> 
>>> Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is
>>> justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; I contrast
>>> this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML
>>> markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
>>> 
>>> IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth and spam
>>> and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is not
>>> justified.
>>> 
>>> HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on web pages, a
>>> triumph of form over content.
>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Customer & Technical Support" <support at pczero.net>
>>>> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>; "Mailman"
>>>> <mailman-users at python.org>; "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>          HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page I'll
>>>>> go to
>>>>> the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the
>>>>> fact
>>>>> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I filter ALL HTML
>>>>> out of
>>>>> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to
>>>>>> ppl
>>>>>> don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the
>>>> mailman
>>>>>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
>>>>>> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra
>>>> traffic
>>>>>>> that it incurs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti
>>>>>>>> html?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <mailman-users at python.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
>>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>>> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
>>>> prefer
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
>>>>>> daily
>>>>>>>>> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> list). The management is handled through the web site itself
>>>> (skyy.com)
>>>>>>>>> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
>>>>>> subscribe
>>>>>>>>> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique
>>>> ID
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we
>>>> went
>>>>>> w/
>>>>>>>>> HTML emails :(
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> don't send HTML :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically
>>>> vetoed
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> LER
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Mailman-Users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Mailman-Users at python.org
>>>>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>>>>>>>>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>>>>>>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This message was sent to: hchs at ns.sympatico.ca
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/
>>>>> hchs%40ns.sympatico.ca
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Mailman-Users mailing list
>>>>>> Mailman-Users at python.org
>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>>>>>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>>>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This message was sent to: support at pczero.net
>>>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/
>>>>>> support%40pczero.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Mailman-Users mailing list
>>>> Mailman-Users at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>>>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>>>> Searchable Archives:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
>>>> 
>>>> This message was sent to: r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk
>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/
>>>> r.barrett%40openinfo.co.uk
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Mailman-Users mailing list
>> Mailman-Users at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
>> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
>> 
>> This message was sent to: support at pczero.net
>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/support%40pczero.net
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users mailing list
> Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
> Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
> 
> This message was sent to: jpbuse at lambesis.com
> Unsubscribe or change your options at
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jpbuse%40lambesis.com

More information about the Mailman-Users mailing list