[Mailman-Users] Re: Poster not receiving his own posts
acc at anthonychavez.org
Sat Dec 11 02:08:12 CET 2004
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:36:51 -0800 Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> wrote:
> Anthony Chavez wrote:
>>Not sure how to get at the number of "avoided duplicates," though.
>>Could you elaborate?
> If a regular member's options include "nodupes" and the member's
> address is in a To: or Cc: header of the post, Mailman will not send
> the post to that member.
Here's where this gets interesting. ;-)
I myself subscribe to this list, have the nodupes bit set, and see
"Receive your own posts to the list? Yes" in my configuration page. I
receive copies of my own posts. Would that be because I'm the owner?
The other subscriber *also* has the nodupes bit, also sees "Receive your
own posts to the list? Yes" in his configuration page. He *doesn't*
receive copies of his own posts, yet everyone else does.
> This does not seem to come into play here as
> the number of regular members is 58 and the number of smtp recipients
> is also 58, thus we don't have to account for any "missing"
> recipients. If we did have to account for missing recipients, we would
> have to see if any regular members were in To: or Cc: headers before
> concluding there was a problem. This is what I meant by "minus the
> number of "avoided duplicates"".
> In your case, it is simpler. There are 58 regular members, all of whom
> are receiving mail and mailman claims to have sent the post to 58
> recipients. So far, so good.
Actually, I re-analyzed the logs just now and it turns out that there
had been an unsubscription between the time that this message was
relayed and the time that I ran list_members. Therefore, the recipient
count should be considered to be 57, which accounts for the fact that
his post wasn't sent back to him.
>>Nevertheless, tracing through the Postfix log for that particular post
>>also yields 58 recipients. This strikes me as very odd since the sender
>>is a non-digest subscriber.
> It seems to agree with Mailman that there were the expected 58
> recipients, thus the issue seems to be on the outbound side of Postfix.
Possibly, but I can't help but thinking that the problem lies in
Mailman-space, since Postfix would at least record an attempt, yes?
>>Thanks for your assistance. Any further thoughts as to what could be
> You could look at Mailman's bounce log to see if anything bounced for
> this member, but presumably you would have already seen it in the
> Postfix log if it had.
No bounce recorded.
> Perhaps the member has a filter at his end that treats the message
> differently if it is From: him. Perhaps some kind of spam rule that
> assumes a message From: him that is not explicitly addressed (To: or
> Cc:) to him is SPAM.
Highly doubtful, since the message is not getting past my MTA. ;-)
Anthony Chavez http://anthonychavez.org/
mailto:acc at anthonychavez.org jabber:acc at jabber.anthonychavez.org
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