[Mailman-Users] administrative requests not being sent properly

[Richard Barrett]

On 11 Oct 2004, at 18:54, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I have a mailman installation I am responisible for (2.1.5).  The list 
> owners do not get any administrative emails (like pending requests).  
> However, the same email addresses subscribed to lists get the list 
> traffic fine and the people get all their normal emails ok.  So the 
> problem seems to lie with Mailman.

Presumption, not proven.

>
> Here is an example from the smtp-failure log file, which I believe is 
> all this admin stuff
>
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to user at domain.com failed with 
> code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: 
> {'user at domain.com': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try 
> later')}, msgid: <mailman.4.1097503200.29790.ederm-dev at domain.com>
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to user at domain.com failed with 
> code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: 
> {'user at domain.com': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try 
> later')}, msgid: <mailman.0.1097505161.30949.pa-members at domain.org>
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to user at domain.com failed with 
> code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: 
> {'user at domain.com': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try 
> later')}, msgid: <mailman.21.1097506077.1873.roselawn@ domain.com>
> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to user at domain.com failed with 
> code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
>

The smtp failures being reported in Mailman's logs appear to be just 
the responses it is getting from the SMTP server it has been told to 
talk to, i.e. the MTA is reporting a not very explicit temporary 
failure to Mailman. Does the SMTP server's logs contain any more info 
as to why it is refusing these messages?

>
> Again, this seems to only affect notices for the admin like pending 
> requests etc.   user at domain (and it happens with everyone who is a 
> list owner it appears) gets mail from Mailman as a list user and 
> normal non Mailman mail just fine.
>
> I think this happened when we upgradede from 2.0.8 or something in 
> that era to 2.1.5
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> Chad