[Mailman-Users] sudden "group mismatch error"
bbyrne at freepress.net
Thu Sep 2 21:49:06 CEST 2004
Thanks. Fortunately I'm running a version of OS X server that predates
Apple's inclusion of mailman, and I believe I've found the source
directory used for the installation (I did not perform the install).
I have a stupid but quick question: will running
erase my existing lists, or will they be left untouched? If the former,
is there a convenient way to backup and re-create the lists
On Sep 2, 2004, at 3:18pm, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 2:32 PM -0400 2004-09-02, Ben Byrne wrote:
>> I've been running Mailman happily on our server (mac os x server on
>> xserve) for months. But suddenly today things have gone awry.
> Is this Mailman as provided by Apple with MacOS X Server? If so,
> then you need to take another look at
> Specifically, the stuff at the bottom about Mailman on MacOS X Server.
>> Specifically, I'm now getting this error when I try to post to a
>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post staff"
>> (reason: 2)
>> (expanded from: <staff at freepress.net>)
>> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail
>> wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but
>> the system's mail server executed the mail script as
>> group "daemon". Try tweaking the mail server to run the
>> script as group "mailman", or re-run configure,
>> providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=daemon'.
> The standard answer to this question is at
> Unfortunately, the standard answer tells you to reinstall Mailman
> with the right group, which you can't do because Apple didn't give you
> the source code to the version they shipped. Moreover, they created
> their own proprietary admin interface, so you can't upgrade the
> version of Mailman you're running unless you completely rip out
> everything Apple gave you with regards to Mailman under MacOS X Server
> and install your own copy that is based directly on our source code.
>> Like I said, I've been running mailman for several months without
>> and am very surprised to get this message. Yesterday I made a minor
>> to our sendmail configuration (activated a feature), so I'm
>> wondering if
>> something hasn't changed in sendmail?
> It's hard to say. Apple ships that as a closed black box, so
> virtually everything under the hood is hidden from view, even from
> those people who would otherwise know what they're doing.
>> Any help would be appreciated, I've got several live, active lists
>> are down as a result of this (!)
> With MacOS X Server, about the only thing we can recommend is that
> you contact Apple to find out how to fix what they've shipped.
> I've recently gotten some more contacts inside Apple and I'm trying
> to get contacts with the team that is responsible for creating MacOS X
> Server. So far, I'm not having any luck.
> Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>
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