[Mailman-Users] Re: Inconsistent post approval options

Mark Sapiro msapiro at value.net
Fri Mar 11 21:00:31 CET 2005

David Abrahams wrote:

>David Abrahams <dave at boost-consulting.com> writes:
>> Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> writes:
>>> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>>>However, both list membership and moderation are handled in the
>>>>Moderate handler which normally comes before Hold in the pipeline, so
>>>>presumably, the poster of this message is a list member and is not
>>>>moderated if this list uses the default pipline.
>>> Except, as Brad correctly notes, this post looks like it came from a
>>> non-member because the "Add to filters" and Ban options are shown as
>>> opposed to the notation that the poster is a list member. Maybe the
>>> list does use a non-default pipeline 
>> I seriously doubt that.  DongInn, you didn't do anything funky with
>> the Mailman filter pipeline, did you?
>He has confirmed that it's the standard pipeline.
>>> or maybe I'm missing something in the sequence of how these are
>>> handled.
>> I think we still have a mystery here, then.

Do we? The screen at http://www.luannocracy.com/mailman.html says the
message was held because "Reason: Message body is too big: 94200 bytes
with a limit of 75 KB". Was the message in fact too big? If so, it was
held for a valid reason.

The only issue is whether it should have been held for "moderated
member" instead. If in fact, it was posted by a moderated member, it
should be held for that reason because that test precedes the too big

Likewise if it was posted by a non-member.

But if it was posted by a unmoderated member, it would be held for "too
big" as it was. The fact that the page at the above link seems to
indicate the post is from a non-member is not relevant because it
determines membership status at the time the admindb page was visited,
not at the time of the post. If the poster unsubscribed or changed
e-mail address after posting, the admindb page may not be correct
about membership status.

You could check your mailman subscribe log to determine if the poster
was a member at the time of the post, but this won't give moderation
status. Also it won't show if the member changed his/her e-mail

Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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