[Mailman-Users] query re "message has implicit destination"

Bretton Vine bretton at hivemind.net
Thu Aug 31 04:18:30 CEST 2006

Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/08/31 02:55 AM:
> It drove me crazy, because I knew there was
> a real explaination for every glitch, and I wanted to find it, but I
> think the 'poltergeist' explaination worked for many of the users.

Yeah, the "radial flux in the atmospheric pressure" excuse may work for most
users but not for my boss :-)

> Do you have an actual message?


> Where did this message come from?

A list-member, cc'd to non-list member (subsequently subbed)

> Is this a message captured from the admindb interface, received from the
> list after approval or sent to you after the fact?

Actually you've hit the nail on the head here. I didn't look at the headers
in the mailman interface and the headers of the received message only reveal
normal From: To: Cc: etc

> Or are you just talking about the message without actually having it in hand?

No I have it, I just didn't know what to look for when the error occurred,
and approved it. Given that this was a time-critical notification for local
infrastructure, and concerns were only voiced long after alternatives had
been explored the blame has to fall somewhere.

(which is ok if there is a *good* explanation and solution at hand)

> Here's my advice for the next time if there is one. Examine the actual
> message headers in the admindb interface and in addition to approving
> the message, check the box to forward a copy to yourself. It would
> have been really handy if you had done this with the original message,
> but of course you had no way to know you would want/need this
> information.

Exactly. Hopefully others will learn from this experience and it won't be a
wasted exercise and merely a brief annoyance.

> Also, you've probably already set require_explicit_destination off for
> the list so there won't be a next time.

Pretty much

> Hint - look at max_num_recipients before you get burned on that one too.

Set to 5 (default)

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