[Mailman-Users] I've built apache, sendmail, mailman successfully, how to make them work?

Mark Sapiro msapiro at value.net
Wed Feb 15 03:46:50 CET 2006

lovecreatesbeauty <lovecreatesbeauty at gmail.com>
   Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:21:27 +0800
     To: Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>,
          mailman-users at python.org

>Hello Mark,
>I configure the network, and nsloookup result shows the status of the network:
>$ nslookup www.google.com
>nslookup is Obsolete. This command may be removed in a future Solaris
>release. Equivalent functionality is provided by nslookup(1m) in
>Server:  czar.thbs.cn.com
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name:    www-china.l.google.com
>Aliases:  www.google.com, www.l.google.com

I don't know what you think this is showing other than there is a name
server at czar.thbs.cn.com ( that you can access that has
an address for www-china.l.google.com (alias www.google.com and

>But when I send invitations, following mails still occures.
>--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 --- --- ---
>--- --- --- the 1st mail received by invitee #1 ends --- --- ---
>--- --- --- the 2st mail received by invitee #2 --- --- ---
>>From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 15 09:49:49 2006
>Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON at joe.com>
>Received: from localhost (localhost)
>=09by joe.com (8.13.1+Sun/8.13.1) id k1F1nmSG000585;
>=09Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
>Message-Id: <200602150149.k1F1nmSG000585 at joe.com>
>To: postmaster
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=3Ddelivery-status;
>Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details
>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (postmaster-notification)
>Content-Length: 1534
>This is a MIME-encapsulated message
>The original message was received at Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:49:48 +0800 (CST)
>from localhost
>with id k1F1nmSF000585
>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><jive-list-bounces at>
>    (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error)
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>553 5.3.5 config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)
>554 5.3.5 Local configuration error
>--- --- --- the 2st mail received by invitee #2 ends --- --- ---
>What's wrong with the this configuration? How can I correct it?

It certainly appears there is a loopback issue in attempting to deliver
to <jive-list-bounces at> from outside.

where I said

"If you are going to use a lan side IP address as the host_name for the
list, external users will never be able to post to it."


"If you want this list to be able to serve outside users, you have to
configure the url host and email host as domain names which are
visible both inside and outside your lan and are routed appropriately."

The Mailman issue here is setting DEFAULT_URL_HOST and
DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST appropriately. See
and be sure to take note of running fix_url after changing

Anything else is a network and or sendmail issue and is outside the
scope of this list.

Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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