[Mailman-Users] Email response very slow using Mailman and sendmail

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Thu Apr 17 03:33:38 CEST 2008

Patil, Manjiri S wrote:
>We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL
>8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list
>(everyone at managemant.bu.edu)consisting app 300 users recipients receive
>it after several hours. E.g see the following Email I sent on Apr14th at
>3:19PM that came in at 6:09 PM and some received at 7:09 PM. I don't
>understand why there is so much delay when sending mail to 300 users
>mailing list. I clearly see in Outlook headers that the mail is sitting
>on Mailman for approximately 2hours . 

And as I suggested previously, everything here is consistent with that
message having been held for moderator approval and not approved for
some time.

>OUTLOOK headers :
>Received: from smgpub.bu.edu (smgsendmail.bu.edu [])
>>            by smgpub.bu.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 
>>            Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:41:09 -0400

And as Hank points out in another reply, You show the sendmail log
entries for the delivery to Mailman with id m3EJJgII032663 which is
the header below, but where are the entries for the above id
m3ELf9u3001743 which is the delivery from Mailman?

>>Received: from relay1.bu.edu (relay1.bu.edu [])
>>            by smgpub.bu.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id
>>            for <everyone at management.bu.edu>; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:19:42
>Here is the corresponding SENDMAIL Log.
>>>Apr 14 15:19:42 smgpub sendmail[32663]: m3EJJgII032663:
>from=<mpatil at bu.edu>, size=2721, class=0, nrcpt s=1,
>msgid=<2DE012B637518B4BB1F1C1F4AA570FB802148BC1 at ENG-EXCHANGE1.ad.bu.edu>
>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA,  relay=relay1.bu.edu []
>>>Apr 14 15:19:42 smgpub sendmail[32664]: m3EJJgII032663:
>to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post everyone",
>ctladdr=<everyone at management.bu.edu> (8/0), delay=00:00:00,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=32911 , dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>>>Apr 14 15:19:50 smgpub sendmail[32667]: m3EJJk3b032666:
>to="|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post everyon e",
>ctladdr=<everyone at management.bu.edu> (8/0), delay=00:00:00,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=32342 , dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>Also in /var/log/mailman/smtp log I always see for the list in question
>request has processed for 1 receipients only however for other lists it
>says for 2recips , 3recips etc. 
>>>Apr 14 05:16:52 2008 (20425)
><mailman.1497.1208164611.20422.everyone at management.bu.edu> smtp to
>everyone for 1 recips, completed in 0.014 seconds
>>>>Apr 14 05:39:33 2008 (20425)
><mailman.1505.1208165972.20422.everyone at management.bu.edu> smtp to
>everyone for 1 recips, completed in 0.011 seconds

These are notices generated from Mailman about messages. Neither of
these is the delivery from Mailman of the post. What is the smtp log
entry containing the message id
<2DE012B637518B4BB1F1C1F4AA570FB802148BC1 at ENG-EXCHANGE1.ad.bu.edu>?

Also, is there an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header in the received message?

Is there anything in Mailman's vette log about this message?

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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