[Mailman-Users] mailman servers coordination: find spammers

Krystal Zipfel zipfel at greenacrestechnology.com
Mon Jul 14 20:08:05 CEST 2008


The problem I see with this is much like the DNSBLs and Block lists 
(spamhaus?).

As Jason put it, one person's spam could very much be another person's 
ham, so mail starts getting rejected by those who outright trust such a 
database and it is hell trying to get removed from those said lists.

Not to mention, there is so much forgery and many changes to spam tricks 
that even SA has to keep up with it. :-(

Personally, I think spam filtering/watching/fighting should be done per 
server, per user, etc. Would be real nice if the ISP's would start doing 
that...

My opinion. :-)

Jason Pruim wrote:
> First, I think it would have better luck on the developers mailing 
> list :)
>
> But as for the idea, I think it could work, but someone would have to 
> provide the hosting for the database that would hold all the info. And 
> we would have to figure out who would be a "trusted" source to report 
> the spam.... My spam might be your ham... I need lunch hehe
>
> In general though I like the idea and would love to hear from others 
> on it as well :)
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
>> I often see addresses popping up and subscribing to all visible lists 
>> on my servers.
>>
>> Sometimes they're a curious individual, and most times they are 
>> spammers harversting addresses (as these are open only to admin).
>>
>> I wonder what the coding "price" would be, if it can even work with 
>> mailman, to create a central trusted DB which watched subscription 
>> trends?
>>
>> 1. It could be used for security.
>> 2. It could fight spammers on the mailman front.
>> 3. If we deal with the security and privacy implications of the first 
>> two, or want a constructive cause--collect cool trends and provide 
>> with a mailing lists index by tag words and activity. Think technorati..
>>
>> This of course, is just a neat idea. Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>     Gadi.
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