[Mailman-Users] excessive bounce notifications..

Gadi Evron ge at linuxbox.org
Mon May 19 07:06:26 CEST 2008

On Sun, 18 May 2008, Bill Christensen wrote:
> At 7:48 AM -0700 5/18/08, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Stefan Förster wrote:
>>> * Khalil Abbas <khillo100 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>  I recieve over 2000 messages from mailman-bounces every day with
>>>>  subject: Uncaught bounce notification.. and when opening any message
>>>>  it's nothing but another Spam Ad about pills or shoes or other
>>>>  stuff.. how can I stop these ADs from being sent to my Admin email?
>>>>  it's becoming a real pain as it takes forever to download to the
>>>>  inbox.. on the other hand, I don't want to disable the notification
>>>>  because sometimes it might be a bounce that mailman couldn't detect
>>>>  so I remove it manually from the list ..
>>> If you do not wan't to disable those notifications in Mailman, the
>>> easiest way seems to filter the messages bevor they are delivered to
>>> mailman. This probably involves some configuration in your MTA - but
>>> have you tried out the "Spam Filtering" options in your admin
>>> webinterface?
>> Mailman's spam filters only apply to mail to the list and list-owner
>> addresses. They don't apply to mail to -bounces.
>> The remainder of Stefan's advice is good.
> If the original mail was sent to the list address by a non-member and bounced 
> with an autoreply, would the spam filter have been applied?  Is the filter 
> only applied after the message passes a member/non-member test?
> My guess is that there's message rejection going on: the spam is coming to 
> the list address, bouncing out as being from non member addresses, and 
> bouncing back to the -bounce address.   If that's the case, stop autoreplying 
> to non member mail - or teach your moderators to discard rather than reject.
> Spam filtering before it gets to Mailman is still probably the best choice.

Unrelated, I auto-delete bounces these days as to deteremine which is 
useful and which isn't, type-wise, takes me opening and examining the 

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