[Mailman-Users] AOL Redacting

Lloyd Tennison lists at viplist.us
Fri Sep 19 22:05:20 CEST 2008

Most of my mailman messages are HTML, so the footer option would not work, as 
cannot append the footer to it.

AOL also said that they will probably readact that one also, just as they 
changed from leaving it in a "X-Header" as they originally said they would, 
to redacting it.  (See Correction about FBL Redaction at 

One suggestion I saw was to have the MTA encrypt the username in a header and 
then decrypt it upon receipt, but I think that would be too much overhead.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
To: lists at viplist.us
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:52:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL Redacting

> Lloyd Tennison wrote:
> > Has anyone written a script that can take the emails from AOL with the 
> > redacted address and have it find the correct email address in the 
> > There was a thread that talked about it, but I do not see that anyone did 
> > it.
> My employer is large enough that we actually have a designated contact at 
> AOL.  When we recently discussed our displeasure with all the information 
> they were redacting, we were told that they do not currently redact any 
> "Delivered To: user at example.com" information that is recorded in any 
> footers, so that would be one potential thing you could enable.
> Of course, that doesn't help for those sites who aren't running mailing 
> lists, but instead have local users who forward their e-mail to AOL.  And 
> that doesn't help anyone who is running mailing lists but cannot (for 
> whatever reason) enable personalization and VERP, including personalization 
> of footers that are attached to e-mail messages.
> We were pointed to the tools at 
> <http://wordtothewise.com/resources/arfrecipient.html>, but that is 
> apparently as far as they are willing to go.
> Personally, I'm about ready to get together with a few other people and 
> rewrite the RFC describing the ARF format, and update it such that you 
> cannot possibly be compliant with the 2.0 format if you redact any 
> information whatsoever.  Then the entire Internet can beat the holy living 
> crap out of them for not being 2.0 format compliant.
> And I say this as the former Sr. Internet Administrator for AOL.
> -- 
> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
> LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>

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