[Mailman-Users] Mailman not updating the archives

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Fri Feb 20 18:11:59 CET 2009

Jack Knowlton wrote:

>I posted on this list sometime ago regarding a problem happening after I
>moved a mailman installation.
>I thought that the problem had been fixed but today I went to check the
>archives and noticed they stopped at the same time I moved the mailman
>This is the last entry in my error log:
>Feb 19 12:08:39 2009 (17573) SHUNTING:
>Feb 19 13:13:42 2009 (17573) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]
>Permission denied: '/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist/index.html'
>Feb 19 13:13:42 2009 (17573) Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop
>    self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile
>    keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in _dispose
>    mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 215, in
>    h.close()
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 324, in close
>    self.write_TOC()
>  File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1097, in
>    toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w')
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
>Feb 19 13:13:42 2009 (17573) SHUNTING:
>And the permissions on "index.html" are:
>dell-srv2:~# ls -alh /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist/index.html
>-rw-r--r-- 1 root list 9.8K 2009-01-18 12:27
>I ran several times check_perms -f and it says all is fixed.

check_perms is lying (actually, there are many files, as opposed to
directories, that check_perms doesn't check). The above file and all
files in /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/ excluding those in
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/*/database/ need to be group

Once you fix these permissions, you could run bin/unshunt to add the
shunted messages to the archive, but there is an issue in that the
messages have been successfully added to
/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox, and
unshunting will add them again.

Rather than trying to fix archive permissions, I suggest you verify
that /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mylist.mbox/mylist.mbox
contains all the lists posts from inception to date, and mayby verify
there are no stray "From " lines in message bodies with bin/cleanarch,
and then stop Mailman and rebuild the archive with

 bin/arch --wipe listname

and then start Mailman. This way, the pipermail archive will be
completely rebuilt with correct permissions.

This is one reason why I always recommend when moving lists to just
move the LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox file and build the archive on the
new machine with bin/arch.

Note if you do this, remove the shunted messages from qfiles/shunt/ so
they don't accidently get unshunted in the future.

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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