[Mailman-Users] Setting Up Mailman

[Larry Stone]

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Wayne Cook wrote:

> Your article is a LIFESAVER Larry, and I can GUARENTEE YOU that I'm in over
> my head!
> Hopefully with help I can muddle through this and learn something...the
> links to the screen shots should work now:
> 
> http://www.mycoachonline.com/mailmanshots/

Screenshots of OS X windows aren't all that useful. They're just showing 
us that a file of the given name exists somewhere. It doesn't show us if 
it's exactly the right place or the contents.

For the first window, two problems: 1) file name - as discussed in the 
previous note it should be start_mailman.sh and 2) more importantly, I'm 
pretty sure it's in the wrong directory. We want that in /var/root (at 
least we do if the that's where we told it would be mailman.plist)

Please do the following in Terminal and send me the output including 
everything you typed and everything returned in response:

cd /var/root
ls -l *mailman*
cat *mailman*.sh
cd /Library/LaunchDaemons
cat mailman.plist

The start obviously failed but any output from it should be logged in 
/var/log/system.log. Try:
grep -i mailman /var/log/system.log
and include any output returned.


-- Larry Stone
    lstone19 at stonejongleux.com

>       On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Wayne Cook wrote:
>
>             I'm trying to move mailman from OSX server to OSX
>             client on a mac mini with OSX 10.6 installed on the
>             machine.
> 
>
>             I'm not a terminal expert, but can usually follow
>             and figure things out, so I'm attempting to follow
>             these instructions as closely as possible:
> 
>
>             http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2010-May/069385.html
> 
>
>       I'm the author of that.
>
>             Obviously I'm not doing something correctly because
>             stuff isn't giving me the correct response when I
>             check to see what python processes are running.
> 
>
>             I have some screen shots here:
> 
>
>             http://www.mycoachonline.com/mailmanshots/
> 
>
>       Unfortunately, that page appears to be broken. Firefox just
>       displays the alternate text and IE gives a red X.
>
>             PS I think there is a typo in step 8 of the
>             instructions, but I've tried it as written and the
>             two ways that I think it should be written.  It says
>             create "start_mailman.sh" and the next line is "vi
>             mailman_start.sh", which may be correct if you know
>             what you're doing, but to a novice like me it looks
>             like one begins with start and the other begins with
>             mailman...should it be as written or modified?
> 
>
>       That is an error. It is start_mailman.sh.
>
>       But I am concerned that with three references in Step 8 to the
>       file as start_mailman.sh and just the one as mailman_start.sh,
>       you only THINK it's a typo. Even though it's Terminal and not a
>       GUI, if you can't recognize that as an obvious typo, you might
>       well be in over your head. Running server software requires an
>       understanding of how things should be working to recognize when
>       they're not working.
>
>       And also, I assume familiarity with a Terminal text editor.
>       While I've given you the format of the Terminal command to edit
>       the file in vi (and vi is not the only way to edit a text file,
>       it's just the one I know and use), I have not given you all the
>       needed vi commands to create the file. If you merely typed the
>       lines I said need to be be in the file without any vi commands,
>       you did not end up with the file you need.
>
>       -- Larry Stone
>         lstone19 at stonejongleux.com
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