[Mailman-Users] Admin approval messages not being sent

Christopher Adams adamsca at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 22:33:32 CEST 2013

I did not mean to imply that there was a connection between the owners and
list posts, just that Mailman list traffic is flowing without problems.

Your assumptions 1-3 are correct. As for #4, if I understand you correctly,
I can send mail outside of Mailman to the listname-owner address and it
delivers correcty regardless of whether the list owners are inside the
local subnet. The problem only seems to occur when sending through the
Mailman server and Postfix. I have been considering that Postfix is the
possible problem, but since list traffic is working fine, I don't know
exactly what to address with the MTA.

The 'inside' addresses are fully qualified.

It is also possible that the central server that mail is routed through is
not looking kindly on the admin notifications, so I will look in to that as
well as problems with Postfix.

Thank you for taking time to reply.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:

> On 4/1/2013 8:22 AM, Christopher Adams wrote:
> > I see the message in the Mailman smtp log going to the list and the two
> > list owners. I also see the message directed to the list owner address
> > in the MTA logs. However, the message is not actually being delivered to
> > the list owner via the alias. I have discovered that, using owner
> > addresses outside of our subnet work for getting confirmation approvals.
> > However, they don't for addresses inside our subnet.
> This is what I think I understand from the above.
> 1) The notice is sent as expected by Mailman to LISTNAME-owner at ...
> 2) The message to LISTNAME-owner at ... is received by Mailman and resent
> by Mailman to all the owner and moderator addresses.
> 3) Those owner and moderator addresses outside your local subnet receive
> the notice, but those inside your local subnet do not.
> 4) Presumably, the same is true for any mail sent to the
> LISTNAME-owner at ... address, i.e., the non-delivery issue does not depend
> on the mail to LISTNAME-owner at ... having been generated by Mailman itself.
> Is this understanding correct?
> Do the 'inside' owner/moderator addresses have a fully qualified domain
> name?
> > That is strange
> > because the owner addresses are deliverable and receive mail through
> > list traffic via Mailman.
> Owners and moderators do not receive list posts. Only members receive
> list posts. There is no connection within Mailman between an
> owner/moderator address and a list member address which may be the same.
> See <http://wiki.list.org/x/5YA9>.
> In any case, if my understanding above is correct, and if the
> owner/moderator 'inside' addresses are fully qualified, this is an MTA
> issue, not a Mailman issue.
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

Christopher Adams
adamsca at gmail.com

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