[Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.

George Kasica gkasica at netwrx1.com
Wed Feb 19 01:09:40 CET 2014


Joe:

I am an IT Specialist (29 years) and new to Mailman as you can see by my
posts here lately,

I run many things under cPanel via a large hosting provider but chose to run
Mailman here on my 2 local Linux Servers (Ubuntu) - I'm not sure why he
feels so strongly, if the provider had a good support structure and prices
(I'm paying $15/month for unlimited space/bandwidth - email me privately for
the provider) plus I run my own 2 local servers here with mailman on them
for several charitable/non-profit groups.

As to an IT Specialist needing to hit the lottery for his own dedicated
server - um...they don't cost that much to build both of these here are
probably about $1K each or less with RAID Disks, redundant power supplies
etc.

Heck, if you just need to host a few lists give me a yell and we can talk.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailman-Users
[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+gkasica=netwrx1.com at python.org] On Behalf Of
Joe
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:51 PM
To: Brian Carpenter
Cc: 'mailman-users at python.org Users'
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.

Hi, Brian.

Thanks for your reply. I will be calling you soon.

I will not disclose the name or e-mail of the IT specialist but his private
message to me expressed his concern over the use of cPanel as a tool for the
management of Mailman.

Here is an excerpt from the e-mail I received:


Joe, unless you have COMPLETE "List Control", DON'T do it ! ! !

If you think you HATE the "baby sitting" of current set-up, you don't
know/fully understand the full meaning of HATE ! ! ! 

For over a decade I have prayed to "Hit the Lottery" as very FIRST thing I
would do is pay for Dedicated Server so I could have FULL control without
the "Baby Sitting" of cPanel ! ! !


Since I am not an IT specialist I have to ask myself, why would he feel so
strongly about this ? What problems should I expect to encounter ?

Thank you,

Joseph.



On February 18, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Brian Carpenter <brian at emwd.com> wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-
>> bounces+brian=emwd.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Joe
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:29 PM
>> To: mailman-users at python.org Users
>> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman hosting service.
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> In my attempt to find a Mailman hosting service I have received a 
>> message from one IT specialist advising me to avoid hosting services 
>> that utilize
> a
>> cPanel. According to this specialist this is a bad arrangement and 
>> one
> that
>> doesn't provide me full control of my lists. Since I am not an IT
> specialist I
>> don't know what a cPanel is or how this can be a problem. Can any of 
>> you enlighten me ? What is a cPanel, why can this be a problem and 
>> how would
> it
>> not allow me full control of my lists ?
>> 
>> In addition, what problems should I expect to encounter in hosting my
> lists
>> with an outside Mailman hosting service ?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance,
>> 
>> Joe.
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> 
> Hi Joe:
> 
> I think we discussed your mailman needs a couple of times over the phone.
> 
> cPanel is a webhosting control panel that is very popular (for good 
> reason) among web hosting companies and it includes the use of mailman.
> 
> cPanel is typically used within a shared hosting environment and I 
> believe it has done a lot in getting mailman into the hands of many list
users.
> Because of the nature of a shared hosting environment, typical mailman 
> users would not have access to the mailman server itself in order to 
> make any customizations such as searchable archives, etc. However my 
> company hosts over a 1000 mailman lists on our cPanel servers and our 
> list clients are very happy with the arrangement. But YMMV.
> 
> If you have not required backend access before to your mailman server 
> then I would think you will not have any problems utilizing a cPanel 
> enabled mailman service. I would be interested in hearing some details 
> of your IT specialist's reservations of cPanel and mailman.
> 
> Brian Carpenter
> EMWD.com
> 
> Providing Cloud Services and more for over 15 years.
> 
> T: 336.755.0685
> E: brian at emwd.com
> www.emwd.com
> 

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