[Mailman-Users] Mailman qrunner: [abrt] full crash report

Dennis Putnam dap1 at bellsouth.net
Mon Oct 31 13:15:13 EDT 2016

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the reply.

You are correct, there is nothing in the error log and this is all that
is in the qrunner log at that time:

Oct 20 06:43:20 2016 (3826) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit
(pid: 3842, sig: 6, sts: None, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting]
Oct 20 06:43:21 2016 (30064) VirginRunner qrunner started.

For that particular day mailman was idle so there was no mailman log.
There was no list activity. That would seem to support your suggestion
that this is not a mailman problem but rather mailman is a victim of
some OS or external issue. Odd however, that it is always mailman that
is effected and yes, the dumps seem to be similar, although I did not
try to do a diff on any of them (that probably wouldn't mean much anyway).

On 10/31/2016 12:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/31/2016 05:43 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>> I have been getting these crash reports occasionally. Does this look
>> like a mailman problem or is mailman falling victim to some OS (Centos
>> 7) or other issue? TIA.
>> time: Thu 20 Oct 2016 06:43:20 AM EDT
>> cmdline:        /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
> The crash is in VirginRunner, but it is at a very low level within
> Python itself.
> Is there anything in Mailman's logs. There probably won't be anything in
> the 'error' log specific to this event because the runner itself
> crashed, but there should be something in the qrunner log about the
> death and restart (and after the 10th time, it won't restart so you'd
> need to restart Mailman).
> Also, is it always VirginRunner and is the "core_backtrace:" always similar?
> VirginRunner processes Mailman generated notices. There should be
> messages in Mailman's logs and the system mail log which will indicate
> what kind of notice Mailman was trying to send.
> Also when VirginRunner dies, there will be a *.bak file left in the
> virgin queue and when the runner restarts, this file will be recovered
> and reprocessed, so there should be log messages (e.g. in Mailman's
> 'smtp' log) about that.
> In any case, this seems more of a Python or OS issue than Mailman per se.
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