[omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations

[Steve Young]

Wed is fine. See other email for details.

Jeff, we should update the 'where and when' page on the website to reflect
the changes.  I can do it if you give me permission.

Steve


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no group
> project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done" or
> so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
> introductory app for new members.
>
> As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great idea.
> http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who knows?
> I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as a
> base for their talk on subject X.
>
> Best,
> Jeff Hinrichs
> On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much more.
>  I
> > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of anything
> > better at the moment...
> >
> > Next meeting is this Monday.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> > > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each meeting
> in
> > > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations on
> > > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a laundry
> list
> > > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> > presentations
> > > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project
> that
> > > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> > >
> > > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project --
> say
> > > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for a
> > > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge of
> > bash,
> > > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> universe.
> > > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can do
> > that.
> > >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> > interaction
> > > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We can
> > > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> > beginning
> > > pythonistas.
> > >
> > > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This
> would
> > > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> > integration
> > > tests and acceptance testing.
> > >
> > > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on topic X
> > and
> > > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> > >
> > >
> > >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket and
> > >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> > >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> > >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> > >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> > >   http://readthedocs.org/
> > >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> > >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on
> pypi
> > >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> > >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> > >
> > > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the example
> --
> > a
> > > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make sense,
> we
> > > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could get
> > > familiar with quickly.
> > >
> > > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on this,
> but
> > I
> > > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> group.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > 402.218.1473
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