[portland] OS Bridge proposal date extended

Thu Apr 2 19:20:41 CEST 2009

I'm impressed Tim and would endorse the GeoDjango idea.  I've so far
compiled GEOS can import it in Python, but that's hardly more than
getting my feet wet.

I'm going to tell my GIS audience to make sure to visit your booth
(I'm doing this on the basis of teaching core Python to ESRI product
users in 2005 at a DoubleTree by Lloyds (might've been Red Lion back
then?) -- spent a lot of time showing how decorator syntax could be
used to take the derivative of a function, which was later decided
wasn't such a great idea on edu-sig, Guido contributing).

I was pushing Django heavily for that Ecotrust Foodhub proposal, which
obviously sank to Davy Jones with no trace, but I'd noticed the
PostGIS angle and was thinking here was room to grow -- didn't know
about GeoDjango back then, wondering if FoodHub went with something
like that (a long time ago, I contracted with Ecotrust to do
membership tracking in Foxpro, because it ran on both Windows and Mac
back then... sounds of dinosaurs stirring).

Anyway, GIS/GPS is very Portland, given our reputation for most
excellent planning.  I wonder if Metro uses much Python (just met with
Phyllis Cole yesterday but we didn't discuss it).  My dad was an urban
planner here in town before we moved overseas.  No one had computers
back then, or cell phones.  How did we do it?  I was learning New Math
(probably why I'm pushing Gnu Math today (because the Russians are
doing it?)).

Thanks again to all who helped with my stupid static serve problems
with Django.  It's hard on my ego to feel this retarded but that's
what we must go through w/r to anything new and unfamiliar (I've
managed to live this long with very little need for regular
expressions, whereas now they're the key to fame and glory -- found
that FireFox plugin that's lets me play with 'em).

Kirby

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Tim Welch <tim.j.welch at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi folks, we've not met, I lurk a bit.  If only my Tuesday nights weren't
> taken.
>
> I'm considering a GeoDjango talk at OS Bridge.  Starting with
> geodjango-basic-apps, covering ctypes bindings for the core GIS libraries
> (GEOS/GDAL), spatial queries (GeoQueryset, etc.), mapping client integration
> (OpenLayers).  Lots of other possibilities, GeoRSS/Atom feeds, KML,
> integration with map engines, case studies.
>
> Kirby, looks like you'll be presenting at the GIS in Action conference this
> month.  See you there perhaps eh.  We should have an OSGeo booth setup.
> I'll be moderating a marine planning session covering tools we've developed
> with GeoDjango for web and PyQGIS for desktop.
>
> Cheers, Tim
>
>
> Tim Welch
> Applications Developer
> Ecotrust
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Dylan Reinhardt
> <python at dylanreinhardt.com>wrote:
>
>> If I understand your issue correctly, you want to mix new content created
>> and managed by Django with legacy content that exists in the form of static
>> html files.
>>
>> This is actually easier than it sounds.  There are many possible solutions,
>> but here's one.  Whether it is the right one will depend on how much of
>> what
>> type of stuff you have.
>>
>> So let's say you have a model you're using for content.  And let's say you
>> want this model to represent a "page" whether that page is new (managed by
>> Django) or legacy (exists in file).  That way both types of "page" can be
>> managed by the same views at similar URLs.  If you want that content object
>> to do double duty, here's what you might do:
>>
>> 1. Add a FilePathField to your model.  Docs:
>> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/fields/#filepathfield
>>
>> 2. Add a method to your model that returns the contents of the file at the
>> path specified in that field
>>
>> 3. In your template(s), check for the presence of a value in the
>> FilePathField.  If it's there, just dump out the contents of the file.  If
>> not, proceed to render your page as you normally would.
>>
>> If you end up with images that use relative paths that are no longer valid,
>> you can probably fix those quickly with an entry in urls.py or an Apache
>> RewriteRule.  Shouldn't take much to map any legacy paths to the new static
>> directory.
>>
>> Anyway... hope that's helpful.
>>
>> Dylan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Dylan, plus to those replying off list.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to wrap an old static HTML website in Django such that I
>> > don't have to change relative paths to images in subdirectories that
>> > won't really be there anymore.  I'm wanting all URLs from the outside
>> > world to stay the same as well i.e. all the old links will work as is.
>> >
>> > http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/cp4e.html will now point to
>> > http://www.4dsolutions.net/controlroom/ocn/old/archive/cp4e.html under
>> > the hood, with the later containing <img src="graphics/pix.png"> tags
>> > that need to be statically served from controlroom/media/ocn/graphics
>> > -- that kind of thing.
>> >
>> > Kind of a hack maybe, an exercise.  The idea is new content would take
>> > advantage of the framework more, but this is a way of grandfathering
>> > in what's at the site already, basically with no changes.
>> >
>> > Kirby
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Dylan Reinhardt
>> > <python at dylanreinhardt.com> wrote:
>> > > This might help:
>> > >
>> > > http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.0/howto/static-files/
>> > >
>> > > HTH,
>> > >
>> > > Dylan
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:59 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Django is driving me nuts I have to admit.  It's the static media bit.
>> > >>  It's all on my Ubuntu laptop so if someone wants to show me where I'm
>> > >> going wrong, the bagels are on me... (I had it working but then
>> > >> decided to move directories around...).  Write me off list maybe.  I
>> > >> live near the Bagdad.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yeah, more Python talks would be good.  I'm not altogether clear what
>> > >> the audience will be like but I think there's always room for "just
>> > >> the basics" i.e. a good old fashioned tutorial that doesn't go too
>> > >> fast.  I know we're into test driven development but I think doctest
>> > >> is sufficient with noobs.  Indeed, Python pedagogy is effective
>> > >> because interactive...
>> > >>
>> > >> I could see PPUG offering a standard once month free class with
>> > >> rotating presenter, then spin-off more advanced topic classes that fly
>> > >> when they fill, sort of Saturday Academy still.  Having something like
>> > >> a fixed schedule for the free ones, then scrambling amongst ourselves
>> > >> to always have an instructor, would be a fun way to make PPUG a
>> > >> stronger glue maybe.    Just a thought.
>> > >>
>> > >> Kirby
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