[pydotorg-www] Analytics

Michael Foord mfoord at python.org
Sun Apr 25 18:28:15 CEST 2010

On 25/04/2010 17:14, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Sunday 25 April 2010 16:02:54 Michael Foord wrote:
>> On 25/04/2010 14:56, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:53:29PM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>>>> P.S. Is there any web stats for pydotorg like browser/country/etc?
>>> http://www.python.org/webstats/ ; most other python.org web servers
>>> also have /webstats/ subdirectories.
>>> Does Debian include other logfile analysis software that produces more
>>> useful results?  We could certainly switch to a different package.
>> I like awstats - but it is not fundamentally very different from
>> webalizer. (Just slightly prettier / more useful output in my opinion.)
> My experience, from having to install such software at work (albeit for an FTP
> site), was that The Webalizer was a lot more sane to install than AWStats,
> documentation for the latter just being plain awful. It almost tempted me to
> write my own log analysis software in Python.

I've installed awstats a couple of times myself and it wasn't so hard. :-)

Not that I haven't been tempted to write my own log analyser software in 
Python *too* though...

> [...]
>> I'm not aware of any genuine privacy concerns raised by the use of
>> google analytics. If anyone wants to prevent their browsing being
>> recorded by google analytics (or other similar services) they will
>> already block it or have switched off javascript altogether.
> For the EuroPython sites, I was very much against Google Analytics: not only
> does (or did) it seem to slow down the loading of sites, effectively pausing
> the loading of content,

There are various standard ways of solving that problem, this one being 
the recommended:


> but the matter of analysis was obviously tied to
> Google.
I haven't seen a rational explanation for why google analytics is a 
privacy concern.

All the best,

Michael Foord


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