[python-committers] clinic churn after beta2

[Benjamin Peterson]

On Tue, Jan 7, 2014, at 04:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 8 Jan 2014 07:11, "A.M. Kuchling" <amk at amk.ca> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 02:37:22PM -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote:
> > > Just to be clear, this is exactly what I mean. I'm not saying AC is not
> > > worth it; I'm questioning the timing.
> >
> > Agreed; let's try to avoid far-ranging sets of changes so late in the
> > beta cycle.
> >
> > If we want to send 3.4 back to alpha and implement some form of
> > string-formatting changes and Argument Clinic, that would be fine,
> > though it might mean Ubuntu and other Linux distros might have to ship
> > with 3.3 again because 3.4 wasn't done in time.
> 
> The bytes formatting change is right out. It likely requires the use of
> the
> 3.3 or 2.7 bytestring formatting code as the basis and should be feasible
> to implement and publish as a function in a cross-version PyPI library
> before locking in the syntax and semantics for Python 3.5, so I see zero
> justification for delaying Python 3.4 on that basis. It's relevant to the
> question of encouraging migrations from Python 2 (as current Python
> developers are used to having a feature like that available), but is not
> especially significant in terms of encouraging *new* development in
> Python
> 3 (since it's a relatively obscure use case with multiple alternative
> approaches available).

A PyPI module is not so great because you'll have to change every
formatting operation to use a function from a module rather than the %
operator or the format method.