[python-committers] Transfer of power
antoine at python.org
Mon Jul 16 14:15:59 EDT 2018
Le 16/07/2018 à 20:05, Tim Peters a écrit :
> > But I'm not sure it's fully appreciated just how active Guido has been
> > in those at times. The "accepted/rejected" at the end of major
> PEPs is
> > just a small part of that. Along the way, e.g., it's been pretty
> > to see a "Save your breath. That's not going to happen." from
> Guido to
> > end a distracting alternative (sub)proposal persistently promoted
> by one
> > (or a few) very active and/or loquacious posters.
> I think that only happens on python-ideas. We've long had a problem
> with that mailing-list (but at least it allows to avoid such discussions
> on python-dev).
> I'm unclear on whether you view that as opposing or confirming my point
> ;-) I view it as confirming: yes, the BDFL has played this role mostly
> on python-ideas, where the dirty work of developing general PEPs is
> intended to take place, while they're still at best half-baked. If
> someone only follows python-dev, they're unaware of most of these BDFL
> The latter may think "oh, big deal - a PEP is posted to python-dev, and
> then Guido has weeks to make up his mind about whether to accept or
> reject it". They're only seeing the end of a sometimes very messy
> process. Most things on python-ideas never make it to python-dev at all.
> PEP 572 was (IMO, and Guido's, and a whole bunch of others) posted to
> python-dev prematurely, so anyone who doesn't follow python-ideas should
> know that the firestorm on python-dev was just a hint of what
> python-ideas can be like routinely ;-)
I know what python-ideas can be like routinely (I do read it at times).
I think the general idea of my comment is that the signal-to-noise ratio
on python-ideas is so low that, whether or not Guido had remained BDFL,
we would still have a productivity problem to solve there.
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