> May I invite you to reconsider? We are going to live with that one for > a loong time, you know... I know. I have read and re-read your arguments, but I see nothing to change my mind. Somehow the short names you suggest just seem wrong to me. We can agree to disagree, but I feel strongly that the names should not be changed. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)