[Python-Dev] New Super PEP

Giovanni Bajo rasky at develer.com
Wed May 2 11:36:30 CEST 2007


On 29/04/2007 17.04, Guido van Rossum wrote:

>> This is only a halfway fix to DRY, and it really only fixes the less
>> important half. The important problem with super is that it
>> encourages people to write incorrect code by requiring that you
>> explicitly specify an argument list. Since calling super with any
>> arguments other than the exact same arguments you have received is
>> nearly always wrong, requiring that the arglist be specified is an
>> attractive nuisance.
> 
> Nearly always wrong? You must be kidding. There are tons of reasons to
> call your super method with modified arguments. E.g. clipping,
> transforming, ...

Really?
http://fuhm.net/super-harmful/

I don't believe that there are really so many. I would object to forcing super 
to *only* be able to pass unmodified arguments. But if it had an alternative 
syntax to do it (ala Dylan's next-method), I would surely use it often enough 
to make it worth.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo



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