[Python-Dev] Unladen-Swallow: A faster python

Mark Hammond skippy.hammond at gmail.com
Sat Mar 28 22:40:54 CET 2009

On 29/03/2009 1:41 AM, andrew cooke wrote:
> Mark Hammond wrote:
>> On 28/03/2009 9:50 PM, andrew cooke wrote:
>>> Tim Roberts wrote:
>>>> [...]  IronPython has certainly shown that Python can be successfully
>>>> implemented in a JIT compiled VM in a performant way, but it has issues
>>>> running C extension modules.
>>>> I'll be curious to see where this project goes.
>>> given the comments on python-dev i wonder if this is the first
>>> indication
>>> that python is going to split into separate implementations for windows
>>> and unix (via .net and llvm, respectively)?

>> What comments are they?  There is no indication that unladen-swallow  is
>> fundamentally broken for Windows, just temporarily broken due to the
>> lack of windows developers/contributors...
> the comments you are referring to - that windows is not a priority, that
> they currently have no testing on windows machines, etc.  i quote, for
> example: "None of the three of us have Windows machines, nor do we
> particularly want to acquire them :), and Windows support isn't going to
> be a big priority."
>> Saying-no-to-fud ly,
> which part of "i wonder" don't you understand?  i'm not saying it is true,
> i'm just discussing the possibility.

Fair enough - although its reasonable for people to look for some 
indication of what you are saying to have some basis in reality, surely?

 > i am getting a little tired of people here acting so defensively...

Which part of my reply did you think was defensive?  I wasn't suggesting 
such a split would necessarily be a bad idea, just that there was no 
evidence of it.  IMO discussing such a split would create a huge amount 
of FUD, generating a huge amount of wasted energy if it wasn't true.

 > i'm discussing a programming language, not the size of your dick.

Wow, talk about jumping to conclusions :)  Is there something you feel 
the need to get off your chest?


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