[Python-Dev] Top-posting on this list
masklinn at masklinn.net
Sun Oct 11 15:04:34 CEST 2009
On 11 Oct 2009, at 13:36 , Tarek Ziadé wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python at benfinney.id.au
> > wrote:
>> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> writes:
>>> Trimming can be a PITA if you're using a crummy MUA
>> How so? It merely requires the ability to navigate up and down by
>> and to select and delete text. I've used some very crummy MUAs, but
>> ability to trim quoted text has never been absent or difficult. Are
>> there MUAs so crummy that this is a PITA, yet still used by any
>> significant portion of email users?
> You just can't do it on some mobile device mail clients. For instance
> Gmail's client on Android.
> It will just top-post and quote the whole mail for you AFAIK.
I'll add the iPhone pre 3.0 Mail (also holds for the Touch): while
trimming was possible, it was done using the delete key and character
per character (jumping to word per word after a few seconds) because
there was no selection.
This made trimming long mails a fairly long-winded task already, but
things were even worse due to the lack of undo: not stopping soon
enough (and deleting part of the text you wanted to quote) meant you
had to either re-type it manually or restart the whole operation from
This has thankfully been fixed (with the addition of a pretty good
selection mechanism and an undo).
Another iPhone mail "feature", (which hasn't been fixed and is
actually just as broken in the desktop version of Mail) is that Mail
is hardcoded to top-post: it's not possible to make the insertion
point default to bottom the quote, it's always above it with a bunch
of white-spaces for the message. Not much of an issue, but it still
makes top-posting lower friction than bottom-posting or trimming.
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