[Python-Dev] Looking after the buildbots (in general)

[Barry Warsaw]

On Aug 04, 2010, at 03:15 PM, exarkun at twistedmatrix.com wrote:

>On 02:51 pm, barry at python.org wrote:
>>On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>>I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex
>>>to check buildbot state after they commit some changes (or at least
>>>on a regular, say weekly, basis), and so gradually the buildbots have
>>>a tendency to turn from green to red, one after another.
>>
>>I'd classify this as a failure of the tools, not of the developers.
>>>These post-commit verification steps should be proactive, and scream
>>>really >loud (or
>>even prevent future commits) until everything is green again.
>>>Buildbots themselves can be unstable, so this may or may not be
>>>workable, and >changing
>>any of this will take valuable volunteer time.  It's also unsexy work.
>
>How hard is it to look at a web page?

That's not the right question :)

The real questions are: how hard is it to remember how to find the appropriate
web page, how hard is it to know which buildbots are *actually* stable enough
to rely on, how hard is it to decipher the results to know what they're
telling you?

-Barry
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