[Python-Dev] Distutils2 scripts

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 10:26:36AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Oct 08, 2010, at 03:22 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
> 
> >Yes that what I was thinking about -- I am not too worried about this,
> >since every Linux  deals with the 'more than one python installed'
> >case.
> 
> Kind of. <wink>  but anyway...
> 
> >> I'm in favor of add a top-level setup module that can be invoked using
> >> "python -m setup ...".  There will be three cases:
> >
> >Nice idea ! I wouldn't call it setup though, since it does many other
> >things. I can't think of a good name yet, but I'd like such a script
> >to express the idea that it can be used to:
> 
> I like 'python -m setup' too.  It's a small step from the familiar thing
> (python setup.py) to the new and shiny thing, without being confusing.  And
> you won't have to worry about things like version numbers because the Python
> executable will already have that baked in.
> 
> >- query pypi
> >- browse what's installed
> >- install/remove projects
> >- create releases and upload them
> >
> >pkg_manager ?
> 
> No underscores, please. :)
> 
> Actually, a decent wrapper script could just be called 'setup'.  My
> command-not-found on Ubuntu doesn't find a collision, or even close
> similarities.
> 
Simple English names like this are almost never a good idea for commands.
A quick google for "/usr/bin/setup" finds that Fedora-derived distros have
a /usr/bin/setup as a wrapper for all the text-mode configuration tools.
And there's a derivative of opensolaris that has a /usr/bin/setup for
configuring the system the first time.

> I still like 'egg' as a command too.  There are no collisions that I can see.
> I know this has been thrown around for years, and it's always been rejected
> because I think setuptools wanted to claim it, but since it still doesn't
> exist afaict, distutils2 could easily use it.
> 
There's a 2D graphics library that provides a /usr/bin/egg command:
  http://www.ir.isas.jaxa.jp/~cyamauch/eggx_procall/
Latest Stable Version 0.93r3 (released 2010/4/14)

In the larger universe of programs, it might make for more intuitive
remembering of the command to use a prefix (either py or python) though.

python-setup  is a lot like python setup.py
pysetup is shorter
pyegg is even shorter :-)

-Toshio
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