[Python-Dev] Python wiki

[anatoly techtonik]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry at python.org> wrote:
>
> I certainly agree with that.  So, how can we solve those problems?  Radomir
> has shell access now so perhaps we can ask him to make the Python wiki theme
> more visually appealing.  What roadblocks do people encounter when they want
> to help garden or reorganize the wiki?

First of all Wiki is outdated. Correct me, but python.org specific
customizations are not modules, but patches that makes it hard to
update the Wiki to latest version or add new customizations.

Second - ugly Creole syntax. I am for inter-cooperation between wikis,
and I understand that for non-developer communities [] symbols
imposing problems, but as an open source developer I am addicted to
Trac and Google Code syntax and never had problems with those.

Third - there is not starting point to help with wiki. No instructions
how to checkout wiki code, how to get python.org modification, how to
get sample data and how to get started. This place should be easily
editable by anyone (premoderated for disrespectful members), so anyone
can share their experience. Take a look at Trac.

Fourth. GPL license. I personally don't have interest to waste my time
for the code I won't be able to use in some projects, unless the
project is either exceptional (Mercurial) or interesting. To make
python.org MoinMoin interesting - there should be an inviting
entrypoint (see point three above) and the list of tasks to choose
form. Something that is better than
http://wiki.python.org/moin/SiteImprovements

Fifth. Credits and motivation for all python.org works. I still
convinced that there should be one primary dedicated list and it
should be public. All sensitive issues can be discussed with
webmasters@ privately, but the primary list should be run by
community. Not the volunteers who are better than others. If there
will be a feeling that site is run by community, then you can expect
contributions. Otherwise expect the community to think "they're doing
the stuff here, so they will fix it".

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anatoly t.