[Python-Dev] PEP 0404 and VS 2010
Christian Tismer
tismer at stackless.com
Wed Nov 20 23:04:28 CET 2013
My question is not answered at all, sorry Joao!
I did not ask a teacher for his opinion on Stackless, but the community
about the
validity of pep 404.
I don't want a python 2.7 that does not install correctly, because people
don't read instructions. And exactly that will happen if I submit a modified
python 2.7 to PyPI.
This is a topic on Stackless Python, and I am asking python-dev before I
do it.
But people know this has its limits.
cheers - chris
On 20/11/13 22:15, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> I'd say publishing a high profile installable code with a "python 2.8"
> name would cause a lot of undesired confusion to start with.
>
> I usually lecture on Python to present the language to college
> students and I.T. workers - and explaining away the current versioning
> scheme (use either 2.7 or 3.3) is hard already. Having to add an
> explanation about a downloadable and installable Python 2.8 that would
> be incompatible with extensions compiled in Pypi would be tough. and I
> doubt it could even be done without making your project look bad on
> the process.
>
> Can't you just mark it as "visual studio 2010" version instead?
>
> js
> -><-
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 November 2013 18:52, Christian Tismer <tismer at stackless.com
> <mailto:tismer at stackless.com>> wrote:
>
> Howdy friends,
>
> according to pep 404, there will never be an official Python 2.8.
> The migration path is from 2.7 to 3.x.
>
> I agree with this strategy in almost all consequences but this one:
>
> Many customers are forced to stick with Python 2.X because of other
> products, but they require a Python 2.X version which can be compiled
> using Visual Studio 2010 or better.
> This is considered an improvement and not a bug fix, where I disagree.
>
> So I see many Python 2.7 repositories on BB/GH which are hacked to
> support
> VS 2010, but they are not converted with the same quality in mind
> that fits our standards.
>
>
> My question
> -----------
>
> I have created a very clean Python 2.7.6+ based CPython with the
> Stackless
> additions, that compiles with VS 2010, using the adapted project
> structure
> of Python 3.3.X, and I want to publish that on the Stackless
> website as the
> official "Stackless Python 2.8". If you consider Stackless as
> official ;-) .
>
> This compiler change is currently the only deviation from CPython 2.7,
> but we may support a few easy back-ports on customer demand. We
> don'd add
> any random stuff, of course.
>
> My question is if that is safe to do:
> Can I rely on PEP 404 that the "Python 2.8" namespace never will clash
> with CPython?
>
> And if not, what do you suggest then?
> It will be submitted by end of November, thanks for your quick
> responses!
>
> all the best -- Chris
>
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