[Python-Dev] PEP 453: Explicit bootstrapping of pip

[R. David Murray]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:38:31 -0400, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "R. David Murray" <rdmurray at bitdance.com> wrote:
> > I don't think this PEP changes the inclusion calculus, because I don't
> > think we've given any real weight to that in stdlib inclusion decisions.
> > I think the decision making is already focused on why Python should have
> > a particular tool out of the box.
> 
> When I originally wrote this statement I wasn't trying to say that modules
> were included because of the lack of an easy installer, but instead that
> a not insignificant number of people had wanted to include stuff and some
> of their reasoning that I had seen in the past included the difficulty in
> bootstrapping the installer.
> 
> So it decreases the *pressure* from others to include stuff for connivence
> not that it necessarily changes how python-dev itself weighs the decision
> to do so (but it might for some people?).

I see.  Yes, that makes sense.

--David