[Python-Dev] Software integrators vs end users (was Re: Language Summit notes)

[Donald Stufft]

On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18 April 2014 16:50, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>> So I’m not really worried about a competition or anything. I’m mostly worried
>> about confusion of users. What you’re suggestion we give to use is *two* ways
>> to install Python packages (and 2 or 3 ways to virtualize a Python instance).
> 
> Note that one of my requirements was that "pip install foo" *must* do
> the right thing in conda environments (whatever we decide the "right
> thing" means in that context). It was buried at the end of a long
> email though, so it would have been easy to miss.
> 
> That means the instructions to new users can be simple and consistent
> - use pip commands to manage Python things, conda commands to manage
> other stuff. They'll likely discover in fairly short order that the
> conda commands also work for Python things, but it can be explained
> that not all environments are conda environments, and hence pip works
> in more situations than conda does, but at the cost of being specific
> to Python packages.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> -- 
> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia

Thinking about that and the implications of it.

Next question, where even is the code for “Anaconda”? I tried to download it
from their website and it’s behind an email form, I saw a link for github issues
but it’s in a dedicated “anaconda-issues” repo which doesn’t have any code
associated with it.

Also to be honest i’m a little uncomfortable with the idea of Python.org pushing
a platform where the company that develops the platform sells Add-ons to that
platform. So while Anaconda itself may be free and open source the fact that
the Anaconda distribution is a gateway to a particular company’s paid add ons
makes me feel a bit like a government sponsored monopoly kind of thing? I’m
not using good words here to describe what I mean, but it feels kind of icky to me.

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