[Python-Dev] Software integrators vs end users (was Re: Language Summit notes)

[Nick Coghlan]

On 18 April 2014 18:28, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 18 April 2014 18:17, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 18 April 2014 22:57, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>>>> Maybe Nick meant ``pip install ipython[all]`` but I don’t actually know what that
>>>> includes. I’ve never used ipython except for the console.
>>>
>>> The hard bit is the QT Console, but that's because there aren't wheels
>>> for PySide AFAICT.
>>
>> IPython, matplotlib, scikit-learn, NumPy, nltk, etc. The things that
>> let you break programming out of the low level box of controlling the
>> computer, and connect it directly to the more universal high level
>> task of understanding and visualising the world.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Nick.
>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
>
> FWIW It’s been David Cournapeau’s opinion (on Twitter at least) that some/all/most
> (I’m not sure exactly which) of these can be handled by Wheels (they just aren’t right now!).

Yeah, I think they're fixable too. And after thinking through the
implications of recommending a specific sumo distribution, that
actually does seem to be a more straightforward path as a "default
entry point".

I still see merit in working with the conda folks to make it easier
for Windows and Mac OS folks to keep their Python installations up to
date, and for Linux users to stay out of the system Python in a distro
independent manner, but that's a separate discussion from the
python.org download pages one.

Cheers,
Nick.


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Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia