[Python-Dev] Software integrators vs end users (was Re: Language Summit notes)

[Donald Stufft]

On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18 April 2014 18:28, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18 April 2014 18:17, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 18 April 2014 22:57, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:
>>>>> Maybe Nick meant ``pip install ipython[all]`` but I don’t actually know what that
>>>>> includes. I’ve never used ipython except for the console.
>>>> 
>>>> The hard bit is the QT Console, but that's because there aren't wheels
>>>> for PySide AFAICT.
>>> 
>>> IPython, matplotlib, scikit-learn, NumPy, nltk, etc. The things that
>>> let you break programming out of the low level box of controlling the
>>> computer, and connect it directly to the more universal high level
>>> task of understanding and visualising the world.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nick.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia
>> 
>> FWIW It’s been David Cournapeau’s opinion (on Twitter at least) that some/all/most
>> (I’m not sure exactly which) of these can be handled by Wheels (they just aren’t right now!).
> 
> Yeah, I think they're fixable too. And after thinking through the
> implications of recommending a specific sumo distribution, that
> actually does seem to be a more straightforward path as a "default
> entry point".
> 
> I still see merit in working with the conda folks to make it easier
> for Windows and Mac OS folks to keep their Python installations up to
> date, and for Linux users to stay out of the system Python in a distro
> independent manner, but that's a separate discussion from the
> python.org download pages one.

Sure, and for *nix based ones there’s also pyenv which I personally use
and like :)

> 
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Nick Coghlan   |   ncoghlan at gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia


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Donald Stufft
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