[Python-Dev] buildbot.python.org down again?

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Tue Jul 8 16:48:39 CEST 2014

May the true owner of buildbot.python.org stand up!

(But I do think there may well not be anyone who feels they own it. And
that's a problem for its long term viability.)

Generally speaking, as an organization we should set up a process for
managing ownership of *all* infrastructure in a uniform way. I don't mean
to say that we need to manage all infrastructure uniformly, just that we
need to have a process for identifying and contacting the owner(s) for each
piece of infrastructure, as well as collecting other information that
people besides the owners might need to know. You can use a wiki page for
that list for all I care, but have a process for what belongs there,
how/when to update it, and even an owner for the wiki page! Stuff like this
shouldn't be just in a few people's heads (even if they are board members)
nor should it be in a file in a repo that nobody has ever heard of.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7 Jul 2014 10:47, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at python.org> wrote:
> >
> > It would still be nice to know who "the appropriate persons" are. Too
> much of our infrastructure seems to be maintained by house elves or the ITA.
> I volunteered to be the board's liaison to the infrastructure team, and
> getting more visibility around what the infrastructure *is* and how it's
> monitored and supported is going to be part of that. That will serve a
> couple of key purposes:
> - making the points of escalation clearer if anything breaks or needs
> improvement (although "infrastructure at python.org" is a good default
> choice)
> - making the current "todo" list of the infrastructure team more visible
> (both to calibrate resolution time expectations and to provide potential
> contributors an idea of what's involved)
> Noah has already set up http://status.python.org/ to track service
> status, I can see about getting buildbot.python.org added to the list.
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> We (the infrastructure team) were actually looking earlier about
> buildbot.python.org and we’re not entirely sure who "owns"
> buildbot.python.org.
> Unfortunately a lot of the *.python.org services are in a similar state
> where
> there is no clear owner. Generally we've not wanted to just step in and
> take
> over for fear of stepping on someones toes but it appears that perhaps
> buildbot.p.o has no owner?
> -----------------
> Donald Stufft
> PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372

--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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