[Python-Dev] Someons's put a "Python 2.8" on GitHub

Wes Turner wes.turner at gmail.com
Sat Dec 10 13:42:24 EST 2016

On Saturday, December 10, 2016, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:

> On 10.12.2016 10:05, David Mertz wrote:
> > I'm forwarding this to the PSF Trademarks committee. If there is a
> > violation, it's a misuse of trademark, not copyright on the code which
> has
> > the Python license stack.
> >
> > I'm on that committee and agree this is improper use. Let's see what
> other
> > members think.
> Our trademark policy for the word mark Python does allow
> for such use and without asking for permissions:
> https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
> """
> ...
> As such, stating accurately that software is written in the Python
> programming language, that it is compatible with the Python programming
> language, or that it contains the Python programming language, is always
> allowed. In those cases, you may use the word "Python" or the unaltered
> logos to indicate this, without our prior approval. This is true both
> for non-commercial and commercial uses.
> This clause overrides other clauses of this policy.
> ...
> """
> and this is on purpose, since Python is BSD software which
> anyone can use, modify, fork, etc.
So, otherwise everyone who forks for any reason is in violation of the
trademark policy?

> The fork also contains a list of differences compared to
> Python 2.7 as shipped by the PSF, so the license is fulfilled
> as well:
> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8

This could be easier (and linked-to):


git rebase -i?

> All that said, I still believe we should contact the author
> and ask for a name change to make it clear to our users that
> the PSF is not endorsing this fork, nor does it provide
> support for it:

>From README.md: "Python 2.8 is licensed under the Python Software License,
(see the LICENSE file for details). This is not an official Python release;
see PEP 404 <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/>."


> https://github.com/naftaliharris
> https://www.naftaliharris.com/contact/
> Regardless of the name, it'll be interesting to see whether
> there's demand for such a fork. Without a website, binaries
> to download, documentation, etc. it's still in the very early
> stages.

What could've been! (Intimidating an incompatible fork would be somewhat
hypocritical at this point).

Do you really think it appropriate to demand a name change because you
disagree with the fork's backward compatibility?

What a useful list of new features (and potential backports), IMHO



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