[Python-Dev] Someons's put a "Python 2.8" on GitHub

[Wes Turner]

s/python/pythone28000/g. There; now I can read the diff's.

On Saturday, December 10, 2016, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Saturday, December 10, 2016, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mal at egenix.com');>> wrote:
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>> On 10.12.2016 10:05, David Mertz wrote:
>> > I'm forwarding this to the PSF Trademarks committee. If there is a
>> > violation, it's a misuse of trademark, not copyright on the code which
>> has
>> > the Python license stack.
>> >
>> > I'm on that committee and agree this is improper use. Let's see what
>> other
>> > members think.
>>
>> Our trademark policy for the word mark Python does allow
>> for such use and without asking for permissions:
>>
>> https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/
>> """
>> ...
>> As such, stating accurately that software is written in the Python
>> programming language, that it is compatible with the Python programming
>> language, or that it contains the Python programming language, is always
>> allowed. In those cases, you may use the word "Python" or the unaltered
>> logos to indicate this, without our prior approval. This is true both
>> for non-commercial and commercial uses.
>>
>> This clause overrides other clauses of this policy.
>> ...
>> """
>>
>> and this is on purpose, since Python is BSD software which
>> anyone can use, modify, fork, etc.
>>
>>
> So, otherwise everyone who forks for any reason is in violation of the
> trademark policy?
>
>
>> The fork also contains a list of differences compared to
>> Python 2.7 as shipped by the PSF, so the license is fulfilled
>> as well:
>>
>> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8
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>
> This could be easier (and linked-to):
> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/master...python/
> cpython:2.7
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> https://github.com/python/cpython/compare/2.7...
> naftaliharris/python2.8:master
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> git rebase -i?
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>> All that said, I still believe we should contact the author
>> and ask for a name change to make it clear to our users that
>> the PSF is not endorsing this fork, nor does it provide
>> support for it:
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> From README.md: "Python 2.8 is licensed under the Python Software License,
> (see the LICENSE file for details). This is not an official Python release;
> see PEP 404 <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/>."
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/
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>>
>> https://github.com/naftaliharris
>> https://www.naftaliharris.com/contact/
>>
>> Regardless of the name, it'll be interesting to see whether
>> there's demand for such a fork. Without a website, binaries
>> to download, documentation, etc. it's still in the very early
>> stages.
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> What could've been! (Intimidating an incompatible fork would be somewhat
> hypocritical at this point).
>
> Do you really think it appropriate to demand a name change because you
> disagree with the fork's backward compatibility?
>
> What a useful list of new features (and potential backports), IMHO
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> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/backports
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> https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/asyncio
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