[Python-Dev] Can we make METH_FASTCALL public, from Python 3.7? (ref: PEP 579

[Brett Cannon]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 at 09:49 INADA Naoki <songofacandy at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 2018年6月21日(木) 1:17 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:09:00 +0200
>> Victor Stinner <vstinner at redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > If we can't at Python 3.7, I think we should do it at 3.8.
>> >
>> > What's the rationale to make it public in 3.7? Can't it wait for 3.8?
>> > The new PEPs target 3.8 anyway, no?
>> >
>> > IMHO it's too late for 3.7.
>>
>> Agreed with Victor.  Also Jeroen's work might lead us to change the
>> protocol for better flexibility or performance.
>
>
> Unless libraries are written with METH_FASTCALL (or using Cython),
> tp_ccall can't have any gain for 3rd party functions written in C.
>
> In other words, if many libraries start supporting FASTCALL, tp_ccall will
> have more gain at the time when Python 3.8 is released.
>
>   Let's not make it a
>> public API too early.
>>
>
> Ok.
>
> Even though it's private at 3.7, extension authors can start using it at
> their risk if we decide METH_FASTCALL is public in 3.8 without any change
> from 3.7.
>

People can still wait for 3.8. Waiting 1.5 years for a feature is nothing
when the software you're talking about is already 28 years. :) It's simply
not worth the risk.

Or you can push for Lukasz's idea of doing annual releases and speed it up
a little. ;)
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