[Python-ideas] Arguments to exceptions

[Chris Angelico]

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Mark E. Haase <mehaase at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For what it's worth, I'm in favour of Steven's "too negative" approach
>> - or rather, I don't think his style is too negative. Yes, it's a bit
>> rough and uncomfortable to be on the receiving end of it, but it's
>> exactly correct. All three of the statements you quote are either
>> provably true from the emails in this thread, or are at least
>> plausible. If you think he's wrong to say them, *say so*, and ask him
>> to justify them.
>>
>> Perhaps what we need is a "falsehoods programmers believe about
>> python-ideas" collection. I'll start it:
>>
>> * All ideas are worthy of respect.
>> * My use-case is enough justification for adding something to the
>> language.
>> * Criticism is bad. Ideas should be welcomed just because they're ideas.
>> ...snip...
>
>
> I don't think Ken actually made any of the false assumptions you've listed
> here, so it's a bit harsh to post that list in this thread. This list is for
> "speculative language ideas" and "discussion". Ken has met that standard.
>
> The topic of tone is interesting, and a broader discussion of how to use
> python-ideas for newcomers and regulars alike is probably overdue, just not
> in this thread.

I didn't intend to imply that any one person had made any particular
assumptions. But if a list like this could be published somewhere, it
would help people to realise what they're unintentionally implying.

ChrisA