[Python-ideas] Arguments to exceptions

Mark E. Haase mehaase at gmail.com
Thu Jul 6 13:30:52 EDT 2017

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> For what it's worth, I'm in favour of Steven's "too negative" approach
> - or rather, I don't think his style is too negative. Yes, it's a bit
> rough and uncomfortable to be on the receiving end of it, but it's
> exactly correct. All three of the statements you quote are either
> provably true from the emails in this thread, or are at least
> plausible. If you think he's wrong to say them, *say so*, and ask him
> to justify them.
> Perhaps what we need is a "falsehoods programmers believe about
> python-ideas" collection. I'll start it:
> * All ideas are worthy of respect.
> * My use-case is enough justification for adding something to the language.
> * Criticism is bad. Ideas should be welcomed just because they're ideas.
> ...snip...

I don't think Ken actually made any of the false assumptions you've listed
here, so it's a bit harsh to post that list in this thread. This list is
for "speculative language ideas" and "discussion". Ken has met that

The topic of tone is interesting, and a broader discussion of how to use
python-ideas for newcomers and regulars alike is probably overdue, just not
in this thread.
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