[Python-ideas] Fwd: Consider allowing the use of abstractmethod without metaclasses

[Neil Girdhar]

Good discussion so far.  Please let me know if I can help with
implementation or documentation.


On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:40 AM INADA Naoki <songofacandy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Victor.
>
> > Why not making abc faster instead of trying to workaround abc for perf
> > issue?
>
> Current ABC provides:
>
> a) Prohibit instantiating without implement abstract methods.
> b) registry based subclassing
>
> People want Java's interface only wants (a).  (b) is unwanted side effect.
>

Right.  (b) is only unwanted because it requires metaclasses, and
metaclasses put constraints on inheritance.

I have switched to using the "AbstractBaseClass" class I defined above in
my own code.  If that is the sort of solution that will be undertaken, then
there is a question of what to call this class.

If instead, every class will get this functionality automatically (which is
more elegant), then someone needs to show that performance is unaffected.

Also, this whole thing might not be that important if (as Guido implies)
linters supplant this functionality.  Although, linters would not catch the
rare case where classes are programatically-generated.

>
> Additionally, even if CPython provide C implementation of ABCMeta,
> other Python implementations won't.
> So Abstract Class (not ABC) may be nice on such implementations too.
>
> I'm +1 to implement abc module in C.
> And I think (a) can be nice first step, instead of implement all at once.
>
> Regards,
>
> INADA Naoki  <songofacandy at gmail.com>
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