[Python-ideas] Consistency in naming [was Re: ...ALL CAPS] (off-list)

[James Lu]

I agree with everything all of you have said in reply to me.

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> On Feb 3, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned at nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/3/19 6:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> (1) Taking the group discussion off-list should be done rarely, and
>> usually only for personal messages that shouldn't be shared
>> publically, or by mutual agreement for off-topic discussions.
>> 
>> I can't see Ned's original comment in either my inbox, or at the
>> archives, so it seems that he took the discussion off-list. I don't know
>> why. It doesn't strike me as either personal or off-topic, so taking it
>> off-list seems to be both unnecessary and a little rude to the rest of
>> the group -- why were the rest of us excluded?
>> 
>> But since Ned apparently intended to take it off-list, it is only polite
>> to respect that your reply.
>> 
>> 
>> (2) The long-standing tradition is to put "OFFLIST" at the *start* of
>> the subject line, not the end where it is easy to overlook.
>> 
>> To make it even more clear, we should explicitly state that the
>> message is off-list at the top of the message.
>> 
>> (Especially if you intend the message to be confidential.)
> 
> I replied to James privately because I felt that the question of "Python's decline," and James' reasons for believing it to be so, were not on-topic for a list about suggestions for improving Python.  It also seemed to me that it could easily devolve into an unproductive discussion for such a large group.  But, it was probably also of interest to the group, many of whom were probably wondering the same things I was, so I can see how it could have stayed in the list (where it now is.)
> 
> It also seemed to me to be a topic which could easily result in James feeling at a disadvantage, being on the other side of a subjective debate from the bulk of the group. I had hoped to discuss it with him in a setting that was less likely to get heated.
> 
> I didn't mean to be rude to anyone.
> 
> --Ned.
> 
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