REPOST: Re: Python and Ruby: a comparison

[Conrad Schneiker]

"Ron Stephens" <rdsteph at earthlink.net> wrote:

> I initiated a thread over on comp.lang.python which has turned into
> somewhat of a comparison between Ruby and Python, their relative
> strengths and weaknesses. The thread is titled Python Popularity:
> Questions and Comments.
[...]
> By teh way, I admire Ruby. Although I am a Python hacker at heart, I
> enjoy this newsgroup, the Ruby community, and I think Matz is doing an
> outstanding job. I do believe though, that Python and Ruby are aimed at
> a very similar problem domains with similar philosophies; and that is
> what I began to talk about on comp.lang.python and that got the thread
> going.

[In this and other somewhat related threads] Some people have (in different
words) lamented the "language fork" (as it were) with respect to providing
the major dynamic OO alternative to Perl (and Java and C++). Others have
pointed out that Python and Ruby appeal to somewhat different tastes and
that they draw newcomers from only partially overlapping pools of people.
Nevertheless, there is some inevitable division of potential resources and
mind share.

Othes have pointed out various relatively moderate but nagging problems in
Ruby and Python which persist due to backwards compatibility, which won't be
fixed until the (highly speculative) advent of major overhalls where full
backwards compatibility is not completely manditory--i.e. Ruby.next and
Python 3000.

So my question is: at such a presently entirely hypothetical future
juncture, is there any practical and desirable middle ground for a common
single successor language to the current generations of Python and Ruby?

Conrad

========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======:
Path: news.sol.net!spool1-milwwi.newsops.execpc.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feeder.kornet.net!news1.kornet.net!ua4canc3ll3r
From: "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker at jump.net>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: cmsg cancel <2WpX7.1145$0s5.714029 at news20>
Control: cancel <2WpX7.1145$0s5.714029 at news20>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 04:37:17 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Lines: 2
Message-ID: <cancel.2WpX7.1145$0s5.714029 at news20>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.57.49.2
X-Trace: news2.kornet.net 1009774599 27193 211.57.49.2 (31 Dec 2001 04:56:39 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet at news2.kornet.net
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 04:56:39 +0000 (UTC)
X-No-Archive: yes
X-Unac4ncel: yes
X-Commentary: I love NewsAgent 1.10 and the Sandblaster Cancel Engine Build 74 (19 March 1999)

This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.