Distributing Python apps

[Norman Skrzypinski]

Thanks for your patience with my somewhat testy questioning.

I accept this.

Norm


"David LeBlanc" <whisper at oz.net> wrote in message
news:mailman.1041749787.13374.python-list at python.org...
> > In the end, I request that you very capable Python experts give
> > me a way to
> > give my customers a 750 KB app.
> >
> > That's not too much to ask, I think.  It's been done, by every other
major
> > software company.
> >
> > Norm
> >
>
> But Python isn't a major software company - it's better! Unlike a typical
> software company, including Microsoft (or Sun or Oracle or...), there are
> not a few to a few dozen working on Python, there are hundreds of
dedicated
> individuals freely contributing their efforts to making a quality product.
> Commercial software ventures can't begin to afford the level of effort and
> equivelent cost that Python's cummulative development has taken, including
> the 100's of free and unencumbered (i.e. free and freely reusable) addons
> and applications that are part of the Python universe. Even the one
company
> most directly connected with current Python evolution, Digital Creations,
> does not charge for the huge coordination effort that's involved in
getting
> high quality Python distribuitions out on a regular basis.
>
> I've contracted at Microsoft and can tell you that the number of people
> assigned to major products for development (not counting marketing,
> management, administration, tech support and "evangalism") would stun you
in
> terms of their relatively tiny numbers. (There's a reason why MS has over
> $40 billion in cash reserves and it has nothing to do with getting a
quality
> product to the consumer!) It's no wonder Steve Ballmar, current CEO of
> Microsoft (Gates is currently CTO IIRC), has described Free Software as
> Microsoft's biggest enemy.
>
> It's simply not possible to deliver the power, expressiveness and
> flexibility of Python in 750kb including your app. There is no high level
> language that can do that when a GUI is included and the support code has
to
> be included in the distribution.
>
> I think people here are ready to assist you in accomplishing what can be
> done, but don't have time to spend on what can't. I regret that the answer
> you want isn't the one that's available. YOU can give your customers a
750kb
> app (if you end up needing that much room!), but the support code is extra
> and there's no way around it no matter what avenue you take unless you're
> willing to put up with what Microsoft allows you.
>
> David LeBlanc
> Seattle, WA USA