"Erik Max Francis" <max at alcyone.com> wrote in message news:405BFC92.E1C8C186 at alcyone.com... > Paul Rubin wrote: > > > Try n.update("help\n"). > > Right. For Amy: You can suppress the newline on echo with the -n > option, by the way: > I discovered this last night. But what is the true MD5 hash for help? With or without the newline?