Why are there no ordered dictionaries?

[Bengt Richter]

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:06:07 +0100, Christoph Zwerschke <cito at online.de> wrote:

>Bengt Richter schrieb:
>> Ok, so if not in the standard library, what is the problem? Can't find what
>> you want with google and PyPI etc.? Or haven't really settled on what your
>> _requirements_ are? That seems to be the primary problem people who complain
>> with "why no sprollificator mode?" questions.
>
>What I don't understand is why legitimate questions such as "why are 
>there no ordered dictionaries" are immediately interpreted as 
>*complaints* and not just as questions. If I ask such a question, I am 
>not complaining but trying to simply figure out *why* there is no such 
>thing. Probably there are reasons and all I want to know is find these 
>reasons and learn a little bit more about Python in doing so.
>
>Why can't such questions be discussed in a factual, calm and friendly way?
Sorry, I was tired and vented some impatience. I'm mostly friendly ;-)
I took the "why" in a different sense than it was meant, I guess.
Sort of like hearing "why haven't I been served yet" in a restaurant, and
having to say, "I don't work here, you'll have to ask the waiter."

>
> > They don't know what they really mean when it comes down to a DYFR
> > (Define Your Felicitous Requirements) challenge.
>
>I don't think that this was true in this case, and even if this is the 
>outcome, those who asked the question will have learned something.
I agree again.
>
>I think a discussion group is not there for only presenting mature, 
>sophisticated thoughts and concepts, but also for "thinking loud" 
>together with other about these issues. We all know that clarifying our 
>thoughts works often best if you discuss them with others. And I think 
>that's one purpose of discussion lists. Asking questions should not be 
>immediately be discouraged, even silly questions. If it is really a FAQ, 
>you can simply point to the FAQ or add the answer in the FAQ list if it 
>is missing there.
Agreed again. Thank you for your nice reply.

Regards,
Bengt Richter